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Bethlehem Shoals of the FanHouse and FreeDarko.com joins Danks and MJD as a special guest this week to discuss the Boston Celtics, some of the surprising teams early in the NBA season, and his burning desire for Jeff Van Gundy to be Jewish. Then Danks and MJD hand some midseason NFL hardware, and close, as always, with Bigger Douche.

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The bulk of our SchruteBuck time today is spent comparing the punishments that will likely be served up to Michael Vick and Tim Donaghy. Neither of them deserves even a single SchruteBuck or a Stanley Nickel, but unfortunately, I do not have the authority to give out jail time.

Other things we touch on: a Japanese little leaguer with measles (okay, we don't literally touch him, which would be a bad idea on a couple of levels), ostrich gonads, Jason Giambi's smooth talking of the commissioner, some very good news for the men of Tennessee, a bit more on Madden '08, and the bold statement made by the U.S. Women's National Soccer Team. And, as always ... a week's worth of very pretty pictures.

-10,000, the United States Legal System

As the Tim Donaghy and Michael Vick cases move ahead, the best guess has Michael Vick serving about a year of jail time after pleading guilty, while Tim Donaghy faces a maximum of 25 for what he's done (and that's not counting potential state charges).

That seems a little off to me.

Who are the victims in the Donaghy scandal? Casinos? Bookies? Yeah, it's heartbreaking when people whose goal in life is to take my money end up losing money. I'm just sick over it. Someone start an immediate relief fund for the Vegas sports books, and please ... give all you can.

Not everyone is as clever or expressive as Vernon Wells. SLAM! Sports goes through a list today of the greatest fan/athlete altercations of all time. Most are pretty recent, but they dig back into the archives, too. It goes from Michael Ray Richardson and his "big-time" Jew lawyers, all the way back to Ty Cobb in 1912.

Some of them don't even count as altercations. Jake Plummer giving the finger to fans, and Davis Love III crying like a little girl. Some are tragic, like Monica Seles getting knifed, and some are sort of bizarrely sad, like the idiot Ligue family attacking a first-base coach. Some, like soccer player Eric Cantona's dropkick of a fan lead to bizarre quotes that I don't even understand.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea."

I don't have any idea what that means. Really. None. Anyway, here are my two favorites, both of which I'd never heard of before today:

During an on-ice scuffle between the Rangers and Bruins at Madison Square Garden, Boston's Stan Jonathan was sliced open by an object thrown from the stands while Terry O'Reilly was being menaced by a stick-wielding fan. Bruins players climbed into the stands and began scuffling with fans. Mike Milbury actually removed a fan's shoe and beat him with it.

Ty Cobb makes Ron Artest look like a peace activist. In 1912, Cobb waded into the stands to pummel, spike and boot a heckler. "Don't kick him!" fans cried. "He has no hands!" The victim had lost all but two fingers in an industrial accident. "I don't care if he has no feet," snarled Cobb when informed of a suspension.

If either of his remaining fingers was the middle one, I doubt he'd ever show it to Ty Cobb again.