Zebra Report is FanHouse's analysis of actual NFL rules and how they are to be applied ... because most fans think they could do a better job than the NFL officials, yet definitely could not. Click here for an introduction as to how we do things. This past week of NFL play was relatively quiet in terms of complaints about the officiating. Note I said "relatively," because there are always a bevy of complaints -- many warranted and many ridiculously unwarranted. We know that. Regardless, we're still here to sift through some of the more intriguing rules-type interpretations, so let's dive in.
- A loyal reader (Dave B.) submitted this question on a play that caused a bit of a scrap on the Falcons' sideline:
"I was hoping you might take a look at the late hit by LaRon Landry in the 'Skins-Falcons game. I've tried to look at it, and it seems that Matt Ryan hadn't stepped out of bounds yet (his body was over the line, but neither of his feet had touched) when Landry made contact with him. If that were true, isn't Ryan still technically in bounds? The hit did seem pretty unnecessary, but wasn't against the rules if Ryan's foot hadn't touched yet."
Watch the play in this highlight package, it starts at the 1:09 mark.
This is one of the tougher judgment calls officials have to make, especially in full-speed and in a split-second. Here is the portion of the rule (12-2-8, p. 82) which applies here.
"(Unnecessary roughness includes ... ) contacting a runner out of bounds. Defensive players must make an effort to avoid contact. Players on defense are responsible for knowing when a runner has crossed the boundary line, except in doubtful cases where he might step on a boundary line and continue parallel with it."
This is a part of the rules constantly taught to lower-level officials in clinics by the NFL guys. At every level, it is the responsibility of the defender to avoid contact on a player entering the end zone is clearly going out of bounds. In the case of Ryan, there was no danger of him cutting back into the field of play. When someone is slowing down and clearly looking straight out of bounds and heading that way, the defenders need to avoid contact. He's not cutting back and staying in bounds, so just let him run out. It harms no one.
This call becomes extremely tough when a player isn't necessarily showing signs of wanting to go out and may still make a cut up-field. It's all discretionary, but the rules of football are very clear in that the burden is on the defensive player to know his surroundings.
In this specific case, I don't even think there's a question that Ryan was clearly headed straight out of bounds -- and was already there -- by the time Landry hit him.
- In the Colts-Texans game, Ryan Moats is tackled just shy of the end zone and the ball comes loose. Upon further review the officials rule that it was a fumble and the ball was never out of bounds. You can watch the play by clicking here and watching at the 35-second mark and beyond. There are several elements here that must be reviewed.
First of all, was it a fumble? It does appear the ball is coming loose before a knee hits the ground. Was it conclusive? I think so, but others may have a different opinion.
Secondly, was any player out of bounds when touching the ball -- even if he doesn't have possession? If so, the ball is dead. You might think the ball was definitely touching Moats when he was out of bounds, but was he legally out of bounds? I point you to the definition of being out of bounds (rule 3-21, p. 11), where it says that someone -- or the ball -- is out of bounds when touching "anything other than a player, an official or a pylon on or outside the boundary line." That means that, since Moats was laying on top of Antoine Bethea, he was not out of bounds when he crossed the sideline.
From the Texans' point of view, they don't seem to be questioning the part about Moats being out (though that's the main complaint of fans). They have offered up that they believe Bethea -- who was definitely on the ground and out of bounds -- touched the ball. There are some still photos and an argument that Bethea touched the ball when he was out of bounds contained in this linked article. We've included a poll to let us know what you think, and feel free to drop comments. This was a very close one.
- As I've said before, you can't exactly trust announcers to know the rules. We can add former-Super-Bowl-champion-coaches-turned-announcers to that list. During the fourth quarter, the Saints punted the ball near their own end zone. A member of the Saints' coverage team accidentally ran into the end zone, but got himself back out before touching the ball. It was downed on the one. "He can't be the first one to touch that!" Brian Billick screamed. Um, Brian, yes he can. It's not the sideline. Here is the only stipulation involving coverage team contact with the goal line on a punt (rule 9-2-2, p. 63):
Item 2: If a player of the kicking team touches the goal line with any part of his body while touching the ball, the ball is dead, and the result of the play is a touchback.
He doesn't even have to get both feet established, as play-by-play announcer Thom Brennaman tried to tell Billick. Just don't be touching the goal line with anything.
- Reader James G. submitted this question. In the Raiders-Chargers Week 8 game, there was a questionable play followed by a false start. After the five-yard penalty was marked off, there ended up being a challenge. The simple answer to the question, "how can you challenge the previous play after a false start" is precisely that a false start doesn't constitute an actual play. It's not a play. So there still hasn't been a play run since the questionable (and still reviewable) play. Of course, James didn't make it easy on me. He asked a legitimate question as a follow up. What if the play is reversed and the spot is changed? Would the false start still be assessed? I searched through the entire enforcement and instant replay sections of the rulebook and found absolutely nothing resembling direction on this question. I have no idea. I would guess that the penalty is not assessed and is simply ignored because they altered the previous result, but that's just an educated guess. Well, as educated as you consider me, at least.
- Vikings fans/Steelers haters, there was a tripping call on Arizona in the Bears-Cardinals game for the exact same action as was called on Minnesota in Pittsburgh a few weeks back. Seriously, it was like the lineman was trying to emulate Jeff Dugan by whipping both legs back up at the leaping defender. What happened there? Was this game fixed, too? Are the Bears "stealers," too?
- Finally, in that same game, Tommie Harris was ejected for punching a Cardinals lineman in the first quarter. This was an absolute no-brainer. Good decision by Ed Hochuli.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
11-11-2009 @ 10:48AM
Stephanie Stradley said...
Given that the Moats play is a "close call" even after you have looked at the video and photo stills, how is it that Jeff Triplette could say that there was "incontrovertible visual evidence" that the play should be overturned? I reviewed it multiple times on my DVR, and I didn't see it.
Also of interest in that game were the neutral zone infractions. The Texans got called on them, but when you looked at the game, you could see that the Colts defenders were doing that all game as well, especially when they were getting pressures. Texans right tackle Eric Winston diplomatically discussed this after the game:
"I just know a lot of guys were getting warned on one side and there were penalties on the other," Texans right tackle Eric Winston said. "You can’t be in the neutral zone first of all. I just keep hearing, '98 [Robert Mathis] scoot back, 98 scoot back.' I guess if you’re doing the penalties you’re going to get called." http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/5406/attention-texans-neutral-zone-off-limits
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11-11-2009 @ 11:36AM
Matt Snyder said...
Thanks, Steph! This is the same crew who didn't see enough evidence that Torry Holt was out of bounds when half his freaking foot was out against the Rams at home earlier this season.
This is not the first time -- not even close to it -- that Tripplette's crew has been accused of favoring the traditional "better" teams. I'm sure it won't be the last, either.
11-11-2009 @ 11:27AM
NOLA Fan said...
I have a question about the Colts/Texans play.
According to the NFL Rule Book, "After the two-minute warning of each half...any Referee Review will be initiated by a Replay Assistant."
It seems to me that the rule is specific. After the two minute warning, all replay challenges must come "from the booth". The rule doesn't address when the PLAY being challenged occurs relative to the two minute warning. Rather, it regulates when a coach can initiate a CHALLENGE vs. a BOOTH REVIEW. The Colts coach did not throw the challenge flag until AFTER the two-minute warning. In fact, he waited until the ball was in a ready to play position, the play clock had started, and both teams were lined up for the first play AFTER the two minute warning.
Any review should have been initiated by the replay booth. Throwing the challenge flag should have resulted in a penalty against the Colts.
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11-11-2009 @ 11:38AM
Matt Snyder said...
NOLA Fan:
The league would consider this "at" or "during" the two-minute warning. I've seen it happen several times (most recently I can think of is at the 2-minute warning of the fourth quarter in the Falcons-Saints MNF game last week) and had already wondered about it myself. They are saying "after" the two-minute warning is anything following the next snap after the warning.
11-11-2009 @ 1:43PM
sgbennew said...
In the Colts/Texans game on the Moats fumble play was the ball spotted at the correct spot. It looked like it should of been spotted at the 1 where Moats was standing and not on the 20. Right?
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11-11-2009 @ 2:29PM
SAEID MOHAMED said...
The point that I didn't see any one bring up is that the play was whistled dead. I thought once the play is whistled dead then it's not a subject for review.
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11-11-2009 @ 4:56PM
greg said...
Personally, I believe the game has become a totally contrived bore. Its become a game all about the referees. Way too many stupid rules.
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11-11-2009 @ 5:28PM
TSSaloic said...
I find the real problem to be the lack of a snap after the Moats turnover. Don't give them time to challenge.
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11-15-2009 @ 9:23AM
lgnu said...
I think the guy who tackled Moats had a hold of his facemask with his right hand. If you enlarge it and look at the replay you can't miss it. If there is a face mask penalty that's the end of the play not who or what was out of bounds.
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