Every Thursday we're taking a look at the battle at the line of scrimmage. Click here for previous Between The Lines features.If you're a Packers fan, it's fair to wonder if the season went downhill the minute that Chad Clifton sprained his ankle against the Bengals. Since then, the Packers have been shuffling linemen and Aaron Rodgers has been running for his life. The season hit bottom this past Monday when Jared Allen and his friends sacked Rodgers eight times in the Vikings 30-23 win.
But if you watch the Vikings game a little more closely, you may notice that not all of the Packers' protection problems were the offensive line's fault. It's hard to point fingers at a quarterback who threw for 384 yards, but Aaron Rodgers was as much to do with the Vikings eight sacks as his injury-plagued offensive line. Of the eight sacks against the Vikings as many as five of them can be blamed at least in part on Rodgers or the play call.
And when Colledge left the Vikings game with a sprained knee, Green Bay was down to playing third-string left tackle T.J. Lang as defensive end Jared Allen finished off a four-and-a-half sack day. Right tackle Allen Barbre isn't exactly having a Pro Bowl season either.
That kind of shakeup would affect any offensive line, and it clearly has hurt the Packers, especially at tackle. Babre has allowed five sacks, Colledge has allowed four, Lang has allowed two and Clifton has allowed one. Those 12 sacks are more than all but six teams have given up this season. The Packers' interior linemen have allowed only two sacks, so when it comes to pass rushing, the problem is limited to the edges.
But Rodgers deserves some of the blame as well, as he showed on Monday. On four of the Vikings eight sacks, Rodgers held the ball for more than three seconds (as much as 5.7 seconds on one sack) and another turned into a sack because of a busted play. In an attempt to make plays downfield, Rodgers would hold the ball, even as Allen was ravaging the Packers' offensive tackles. The Packers offensive line was overmatched by the Vikings front four, but instead of getting rid of the ball more quickly because of that, Rodgers would wait and try to make the perfect pass. It worked a lot--he threw for 384 yards--but it also helped set up the Vikings pass rush's big day.
After timing each and every one of the 268 sacks that have been recorded in the first four weeks of the season it's becoming pretty apparent that the average sack occurs somewhere between 2.7 and 2.8 seconds after the snap of the ball. When announcers talk about a quarterback having an internal alarm clock to know when to get rid of the ball, that alarm clock generally should be going off around 2.7 seconds after the snap. Considering the injuries on the Packers' offensive line, Rodgers may want to move that alarm clock up to 2.5 seconds or so on an average snap. Instead, he's hit the snooze button.
The worst came on a pass play with the Packers backed up at their only goal line. Colledge had just left the game with a knee injury (after Allen had picked up 2 1/2 sacks in the first three quarters). The Packers tried to give third-string left tackle Lang some help by using tailback Ryan Grant to help double-team Allen. If Rodgers had gotten rid of the ball on time, it would have worked. But he ended up pump faking, pulling the ball down, stepping up into the pocket and looking for another option. The double team for Allen prevented him from getting free around the outside, but when Rodgers stepped up, it gave Allen a open lane to reverse his momentum and pull Rodgers down from behind for the sack and a safety 3.3 seconds after the snap.
On another sack, Rodgers held the ball for an amazing 5.7 seconds before defensive end Brian Robison finally got free for the sack. Of the 268 sacks recorded this season, only seven have seen a quarterback hold the ball longer. Usually when a sack happens that long after the snap, it occurs because the quarterback has run around to the point where the play has completely broken down (Josh Johnson held the ball this week for 12 seconds on a play that would have made Fran Tarkenton proud). But Rodgers was just moving around looking for a receiver and struggling to find someone to throw to.
Rodgers was sacked on a rollout pass where linebacker Ben Leber (who had dropped into coverage) came up to make a big hit. Rodgers had 4.3 seconds to throw the ball, which is easily enough time to at least throw the ball away if no one was open. There also was a sack where Rodgers was driven down 3.4 seconds after the snap. And a fifth sack came on a blown play where Rodgers looked to throw a quick stop to a wide receiver, only to find the receiver streaking downfield instead. With the play falling apart, Rodgers simply ate the ball. That may not have been Rodgers' fault, but it wasn't the line's fault either.
Now that doesn't mean the offensive line is blameless, they're not anything close to blameless. Teams don't need to send blitzes to pressure Rodgers--on 75 percent of the Packers' sacks, teams have rushed only four men. For the entire NFL, four-man rushes have accounted for only 57 percent of sacks. That leads to a vicious cycle: since team's don't have to send extra pass rushers against the Packers, they can drop more men into coverage, which makes it harder for Rodgers to find an open receiver, which means Rodgers holds the ball longer which leads to more sacks.
With 20 sacks allowed this season, the Packers easily lead the league (the Bills are the only other team that has allowed more than 13 sacks) and the offensive line is a big part of that. But it's also true that Rodgers' approach of holding the ball to make big plays means Packers fans have to live with sacks as well as plenty of passing yards.


















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10-08-2009 @ 1:25PM
John said...
I've never been a Rodgers fan and believe that TT was in too big of a hurry to give him the starting job. With that said, what I have been seeing, not only in Monday's game, but the others also, is that Rodgers does not seem to be a guick thinker when under pressure. That is a problem that is hard to correct. If I am correct, I think in time, most football experts will regard him as an average quarterback, not the elite that many are claiming now.
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10-08-2009 @ 3:42PM
Dan said...
The real question is whether Jared Allen or another NFC North DE can break the season sack record this year. Right now, 3 of the top 6 sack leaders in the entire league have played the Packers and owe at least half of their total to the Packer tackles and Rogers. Add to that two games against the Lions' rookie or Culpepper and a good season in general and I think it's entirely possible.
Jared Allen has 6.5 right now and if he gets 1 per game plus another 4.5 on Nov. 1st against the Packers on Nov. 1st (not unlikely because the tackle situation isn't going to get better), that puts him at 22. Just 1/2 shy of the record. Maybe they can put him in on offense and Favre can lay down for a free sack just like he did to give it to Strahan.
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10-08-2009 @ 6:51PM
hsiunnu said...
Dead right, John. It was ridiculous that Thompson couldn't give arguably the greatest QB in NFL history even a *chance* to prove himself in training camp against Rogers last year. If GB fans get a clue it won't be Brett they look at as a traitor down the line but the GM who ran him out of town.
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10-09-2009 @ 12:55AM
olddutchlofts said...
You cant blame a guy for having the " Deer in headlight " syndrome. It was to the point he was scared of the Vikings, and he had a good reason to be too. The Packers were quoted as saying " Were going after Favre ", bad news for them, the Vikings retaliated for a change rather than just turn the other cheek and went after Rogers with a vengeance that's been held back fo oh so long. Its a fact the Packers feel they own the NFC North division and at almost any cost they'll do what ever it takes to get what they want. The real fact of the matter is, the Vikings are the most dominant team in the North and very well might be for some time to come. They have always been a strong team but for some reason they get pegged with fines, suspensions and all kinds of other garbage. I think the NFL has held them down long enough, its their time, and the Packer Org. may as well shut their stupid mouths about bounty hunts and punching Viking players etc. This last game between the two teams proved that the Packers will play dirty, just one look at the penalties and who did them and what they did will explain it all to you. The Vikings were and are the better team, and I hope they don't end up playing my team this year or any time soon for that matter.
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10-09-2009 @ 9:55AM
Brody said...
It amazes me how little you people actually know, but then run your mouths like you know it all.
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10-09-2009 @ 11:49PM
scott specht said...
been a packers fan since the 1960,s when i was a
little kid. i think that now that brett has stuck
it to ted, and in my opinion, any true packer fan. if i were ted, the next game the punter would
be wearing #4, and that jersey would never be
retired, it would be for punters only. packer
hall of fame? if it was up to me? never.
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10-12-2009 @ 3:36AM
JC3GBPFan said...
Scott... I agree with your comments about the jersey and giving it to the punter. In Bretty's last 3 seasons with Greenbay he never wanted to come to OTA's and traing camps that is a laugh. In 2008 when he finally decided to get off of his lawn mower and show up the pre-season was already in progress. Now here is a guy that is "Appalled" that someone else is playing QB. This meat head goes on ESPN cries and say's things like: "I don't have anything left to give" and those saps at ESPN ate it up. Packers needed to know if he was going to play or not, "What is so hard about that?" Then in August he get's the itch or something along those lines and comes to Greenbay and wants to be given his release so he can go suck up to Bevell. When he was with the Packers he got paid very well. But #4 was just out for #4 like always. I guess there really is no I in the word TEAM.
10-13-2009 @ 9:17AM
dean said...
well they got Tauscher back and lets see how well that goes this week, because I don't think Barbe can get the job done, he's a flop, also why not bring Rossum back to return kicks and punts and get rid of that useless Bush
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