Sorting the Sunday Pile looks back at the NFL weekend that was. It's also an unofficial Jim Zorn blog.Maybe Browns owner Randy Lerner was a tad premature to hire Eric Mangini 15 minutes after giving Romeo Crennel the boot. That seemed to be the consensus at the time and the sentiment was reinforced after watching Mangini lead the Browns to three losses, none of which were close.
No idea if he is on the hot seat, and that's not even the point. The bigger issue: where do the Browns go from here? Brady Quinn, the guy who was supposed to save this franchise from itself, looks like he took up football last month. And Derek Anderson aspires to look that bad. Maybe that's overstating it -- the defense certainly hasn't helped -- but a year ago we were busy lamenting the awfulness of Braylon Edwards' hands. It was a simpler time. And I can't believe I'm about to type this, but the Tim Couch-Kelly Holcomb one-two punch seem like the good ol' days.
But it gets worse ... because it's Cleveland: in addition to beginning the season 0-3, Mangini has cast himself as a villain in his own locker room. There used to be a time when "player's coach" was pejorative. Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry, and later Mike Ditka and Bill Parcells were all hard-asses who also had Super Bowl rings. In recent years, however, there's been a shift in philosophy. It's now okay to try to relate to players, to use something other than verbal intimidation to get the desired on-field results. Tony Dungy and Mike Tomlin are obvious examples, and both have won Super Bowls. But the influx of young or first-time head coaches has also played a part. Jim Harbaugh, Mike Smith and Rex Ryan fall into that category. And even though Mangini is only 38 years old, he remains unyielding in his ideological approach to winning, and as a result he's coaching himself right out of the league.
Which would suit the guys currently playing for Mangini just fine. In June, he put the Browns' rookies on a bus from Cleveland to Hartford, CT to work a football camp while he opted for the opulence of air travel. Something about the 90-minute flight appealed to him in a way a 10-hour bus ride couldn't.
It would be one thing if it ended there. It did not. Last week, Mangenius fined a player $1,700 for taking a $3 bottle of water from the hotel minibar and not paying for it. To send the message, no doubt, that insolence will not be tolerated. There's more, via ESPN's Adam Schefter, who had the second-best tweet on Sunday (after this): "Browns players have filed 2 grievances against HC Eric Mangini and 3 more being processed this week -- team has more grievances than W's."
The Newark Star-Ledger's Dave Hutchinson wrote these words in the aftermath of Busgate, but they are truer now than ever: "Being hired so soon after being canned by the Jets may turn out to be the worst thing to happen to Mangini because he didn't get the chance to reflect on his experience as a first-time head coach. Instead, he's instituting many of the same bullish policies he had with the Jets, many of which rubbed players the wrong way."
Yes he has. And now that the Lions have a win, Mangini has transformed the Browns into the league's biggest laughingstock in record time. He wrestled that title away from Rod Marinelli like it was the last honeybun at the breakfast bar.
Good thing Lerner was in such a rush to hire somebody. God forbid he wait around for Scott Pioli. Or anybody but Mangini, actually. Jim Brown should issue a public apology first thing Monday morning.
The Ravens were the last team to throttle the Browns, manhandling them 34-3. With all the early season talk about the Favre-tastic Vikings, and the magic that is Mark Sanchez and the Jets, Baltimore has gone unnoticed for the most part. But they have one of the NFL's best defenses, and Cam Cameron has taken the training wheels off the offense.
Second-year quarterback Joe Flacco looks like a grizzled veteran and Willis McGahee is playing like he's afraid of getting cut. Of course, Derek Anderson and Jamal Lewis could have said the same thing in 2007 (Anderson made the Super Pro Bowl, Lewis rushed for 1,304 yards, and the Browns won 10 games), but the '09 Ravens are different.
The Ray Lewis All-Stars will always be there to bail out the offense should it stumble. And unlike Anderson, Flacco is by all accounts, a smarter, more mobile, more consistent player. And three weeks into this thing, the Ravens have a two-game lead in the division over the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's huge.
Muffed Punts
Leftovers from Sunday's action...
... Jim Zorn, here's your silver lining: it could be worse, you could be Eric Mangini. That said, you'll both be looking for work soon. It's hard to fathom how the Redskins' offense could be more inept, or how Danny Snyder could get less out of his high-priced investments, but there are 14 weeks to go in the season. A lot can happen.
... I have no idea why God hates the Texans, but he's making an example out of that franchise. First, there was David Carr, then the whole Rosenchoppa fiasco, and Sunday, Chris Brown fumbled a few millimeters short of the end zone late in the game, ensuring the Jags their first victory of the year.
... I lost count of the number of times Troy Aikman said, "I have no idea where Tom Brady was going with that pass," but the Patriots won and that's all that matters. Brady still looked shaky, but better than he did the first two weeks, and more than that, New England is 2-1. Having a running game always helps (Fred Taylor rushed for 105 yards), but the balanced attack could be short-lived: the Ravens come to Foxboro next week.
... Two years ago there was a lot of bellyaching about Bill Belichick and the Patriots running up the score. They hung 48 on the Cowboys, 49 on the Dolphins, and 56 on the Bills during the regular season, usually showing no let-up in the fourth quarter. You know what's more disrespectful than continuing to throw touchdown passes when the game has long been decided? Bringing in David Carr with more than six minutes to go and a 24-0 lead, that's what. The Giants did it Sunday and all the Buccaneers could do was take it. It must have been a very humbling experience.
... Sometimes atheists will say things like, "If there's a God, how could He stand by while Tim Tebow is concussed?" I'll take it one further: How can He stand by while Brett Favre throws a game-winning touchdown? Doesn't this man deserve to feel the Lord's wrath for fake-retiring every spring? It does make you question your faith, especially when the Texans haven't caught one break in their eight-year existence.
... Terrell Owens usually plays nice during his first year in a new city, but I'll give it one more no-catch game before he goes half-naked-sit-ups-in-the-driveway on us. With T.O. it's always a matter of time, but if he has a mediocre season in Buffalo, there's a chance his NFL career could be over. I'm sure somebody will throw a close-to-vet-minimum salary at him in the offseason, but I don't see Owens going for it. Upshot: he'll get a head start on that acting career.
... Too bad NFL games aren't 45 minutes. The Steelers would be 3-0, and fans would be spared the misery of watching Limas Sweed try to catch a football. There is good news, though: Pittsburgh is the best 1-2 team in the league AND the offensive line looks fantastic. Too bad Jeff Reed and Santonio Holmes -- two of the team's most important players last year -- suddenly look drunk and high.
... Despite the Steelers' troubles, at least they're not the Titans. Myron Cope's a mean drunk, LenDale.
... The two best quarterbacks heading into the 2007 draft are now two of the worst quarterbacks in professional football. Brady Quinn was benched for Derek Anderson Sunday, but JaMarcus Russell has no such fears. Not because he's dreadful, but because the Raiders allegedly cut Jeff Garcia because they didn't want him to push Russell for playing time. After completing just 19 of 54 passes to start the year, J-Bomb was 12 for 21 (for 61 yards!) against the Broncos yesterday. Brilliant.
... One more Browns fun fact: they haven't scored an offensive touchdown in eight quarters.
This Week in Fake Tweets

More fake-tweeting ridiculousness here.
Week 3's Pretty Picture

In retrospect, maybe hanging out with Tom Cruise before the game wasn't such a swell idea. (More pretty pictures here.)


















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
9-28-2009 @ 9:07AM
toddsworld05 said...
ha ha that was freaking funny!
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9-28-2009 @ 9:53AM
gtproberacing said...
Anderson didn't go the "super bowl" and didn't the Browns score a offensive TD against the Vikings? I understand the point your trying to make but this is just bad writing if you don't research your information before hand...
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9-28-2009 @ 11:10AM
Roger Childress said...
Wilson you never cease to amaze me. Lets see....you said " two years ago there was a lot of bellyaching about Belichick and the Patriots running up the score" What? You seem to be rewritting the truth here by avoiding the truth.ITS WAS YOU,and others, that did most of the bellyaching wasn't it.Seems you wrote an article back then that suggested that Brady could be hurt if he kept running up the score...am I correct?.Sure you will say that you were just repeating what someone else said but as I remember it you had a field day with the subject of the patriots running up so called scores....NOW ITS BELLYACHING? Three cents for your integrety and thats overpriceing it you phoney.
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9-28-2009 @ 12:22PM
SwyFrd said...
Zorn Isn't much of a coach.................
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9-28-2009 @ 1:16PM
jvsiii3 said...
Jim Harbaugh is the coach of Stanford. It's his brother John. But the skinnies suck due to their owner, not the coach. Look what Snyder has done in free agency of the last few years. Nothing. Let you coaches coach. And let them run the draft as well. There's an old saying that money doesn't buy class. It doesn't buy football smarts either. No offense about the harbaugh comment. I really enjoyed your column.
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9-28-2009 @ 1:29PM
cantstopdrinkin said...
I hate bandwagon fans but it looks like they are comin out of the woodworks now for my Saints. At the beginning of the preseason i predicted they will go 12-4 this year and got LAUGHED AT. Still need to shore up the pass D a little but our two weakest areas (defense and running game) keep looking better and better every game and this team is really coming together. I said they would be an elite team last year also and i feel they would have been without ALLLL the injuries (16 outta 22 starters got hurt) . Even with that they still went 8-8 and 6 of those losses were by a COMBINED 18 points. So its not like the Saints have just come out of nowhere, this is an elite team....
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9-28-2009 @ 1:54PM
daveenlakwood said...
Nice try Ryan Wilson but youre an idiot to.... you dont live here we do..... the guy serving a crap football product is the owner one Randy Lerner, who is the head snake, and until the head of the snake is chopped off nothing will change.... this owner is a total embarrassment to our city. his players work ethics come straight from the projects, and results are the same year after year, coach after coach, 3/4 year plan after plan.... til Randy Lerner the Loser leaves town, there will never be football in Cleveland....he doesn't want his picture taken cause he doesn't want his face next to the crap he created in the stadium......he needs to be deported permanently to London where the lil rich kid snob can eat from his daddys silver spoon and have tea and crumpets..... Lerner has ruined football in our town.... every fan outta put his face on a tee shirt and where it to the stadium with the statement..... the grinch who stole our football in cleveland.... be care folks Im claiming copyright...... THE RANDY GRINCH....just like his father sold our team with Art Model.... both were creeps and took dumps on the loyal fans here......
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9-28-2009 @ 1:54PM
chilly16 said...
I cant believe I read a garbage article this long. Fanhouse writers < Yahoo, espn, your local highschool paper
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9-28-2009 @ 2:15PM
Larry said...
The only saving grace is that the teams that have beat them are a combined 9-0. I have been a Browns fan since the 60's and this is better then watching them get so close to a playoff berth or AFC championship just to let it slip away at the very last moment and give us a rotten start to the new year. They will win a few games this year and then get the first pick in the draft. Next year we can welcome Tim Tebow or some other great college quarterback to the "house of ill fated QBs"
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9-28-2009 @ 2:16PM
Luke said...
Browns scored an offensive touchdown week one against the Vikings ... thanks for taking the time to get your story straight
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9-28-2009 @ 2:24PM
ryan said...
Luke,
Yep, you're right. I don't know where I got that. That should be eight quarters. Fixed above. Thanks.
9-28-2009 @ 3:24PM
wpanthers0098 said...
Why in the heck did the Browns rush to sign Mangini? Surely better coaches with better track records were there for them to sign. Instead they sign this buffoon. They should can him as well as Brady Quinn.
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9-28-2009 @ 6:12PM
ldmcclintock said...
brady was never ready for the NFL. N.D.IS NOT THE N.F.L.
9-28-2009 @ 4:02PM
algibson2110 said...
This is the worst perpared team I can remember I've been a loyal Browns fan since 1960.This is a discrace.Fire Magini NOW! This season is over already Lets get a real coach in here, and start over now, mabey we'll be ready to play some football by next season.
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9-28-2009 @ 7:01PM
Tasso Paris said...
I like Mangini he is a hard nosed get your ass in shape you don't produce you sit kinda coach ... you can't blame lousy personel on him .... As for the current QB situation we never should have drafted Quinn stick with Anderson.
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9-28-2009 @ 9:26PM
daveenlakwood said...
Must listened to Mangini's press conference.... a total joke.... he said he thought their were some good things his team was doing.... what tying their shoes, spending and cashing their checks, knowing what car they own.....he sidestepped answering any frustrations the fans are feeling.... here Buddy, lil bill, or what ever you want to call your program..... you not only lost your team, you've lost the fans.... your best thing would be resign right after Cinci blows your doors off, cause they are gonna kill the Browns.... you made these decisions to kept to inept QBS, you kept Brandon Macdonald who couldn't tackle an eighty year old pewrson with 1 leg, you brought these lazy jets players that have no work ethics or effort with you from New York.... you gave the Jets a franchise qb for 4 bums that should be out of football.... you passed on Ray Manaluga for a wide receiver thats been active 2 weeks in a row.... you yanked your starter after 2 1/2 games for a reject that threw 3 interceptions.... you toyed with the fans about chosing a starting qb.... you played your little Belicheat games with injuries during preason.... and we want you out... you suck, your program sucks, and your coaching staff sucks top to bottom, including you.... eat some more pizza dude...and to to the idiot who hired you.... Grinch Randy Lerner who has embarrassed and ruined football in Cleveland for 10 years running.... our city is not the problem you are dude.... fans need to post your clown picture everywhere and remind people the face that turned football into crap in Cleveland Ohio..... you need to be deported to London cause you are a villian in our town.... you steal money and you put crap on the field.... til you leave.... we will never enjoy Sundays and that is the way it is.... people outta picket that billion dollar stadium and shut your game down dude... that would force the sale..... fans post his face on tree lawns of him, put his face everywhere, make him own his crap product.... embarrass him like he's embarrassed our community..... his face outta be plastered everywhere.... finally, to the press..... you guys need to bring it buddies cause you do not ask any tough questions and you are the reasons this crap continues year after year.... Mangini you need be fired pronto.... you will never win here.... Lerner you need a new address you are the worst NFL owner in the history of the league..... sell our team dude.... and to Brandon Macdonald.... I watched your little interview.... you are a quitter you couldn't cover a turtle.... you belong on the unemployment line with most of your teammates.
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9-28-2009 @ 10:37PM
domamor7 said...
i agree they should run the coach out of town this team looks terrible but give brady a break how are you suppose to make it in the nfl if your watching the sidelines to see if your coach is going to bench you. GO BROWNS
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9-29-2009 @ 6:30AM
whobdah007 said...
The Cleveland Browns are the best high school team in Ohio, period.
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9-29-2009 @ 8:17PM
daveenlakwood said...
Kenny Roda is reporting Jamal Lewis didn't play against the Ravens cause he didn't want to take the hits, and Mike Florio is reporting that Phil Dawson was not hurt but is unhappy w his contracts.... theres two quitters.... Brandon Macdonald is privately saying to friends that Mangini has lost the players in the lockerroom, and Shaun Rogers wants out of Cleveland.... to lose your team in week 3 is an NFL record.... all 4 of those players need suspended for 3 game checks....or cut them.....Grinch Randy Lerner said fans expectations are too high in Cleveland and feels the NFL made a mistake giving a franchise to Cleveland..... He said he has delivered a good product and Clevelanders lack patience with his team from the Cleveland projects..... Bernie Kosar and Jim Brown are going out to try to keep the dogs off the man who doesn't want his picture taken....Romeo Crenell is privately saving Lerner is the worst other in the league.... and no coach with creditbility will take a job in Cleveland..... til Lerner sells.... looks like Abe Elam is leading the lockerroom in an effort to get Mangini fired..... finally.... Eric Mangini had the chains on Quinn and the OC told Quinn he will dink and dunk, but notice gunslinger Anderson got full freedom.... this was the only way Mangini could bring down Quinn's popularity and get his own guy with fan resistence......RIP FOOTBALLFANS.... it is over for the BROWNS.... you are the last line of hope.... put yard signs with Randy Lerners face in on your property and demand he sell the team....put his face on t-shirts with a pile of crap next to it..... put his face on the product he's delivered......Mangini is done in Cleveland....the players say they can deliberately quit and pretend til Mangini is gone, and they have killed two previous coaches..... and we have no leaders except De'Qwell Jackson... who sucks too..... the others are saying they are touching this leadership with a ten foot pole..... look for fake injuries like Dawson and J. Lewis to continue each game.....
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9-29-2009 @ 10:51PM
Brownstony said...
Anybody with any common sense knows Mangina is a fruitcake. How do these people get in here like that. I just wonder how long it will take to get rid of this guy. The root of this whole problem is the greed and selfishness of Randy Lerner.
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