While the Brett Favre saga seems to be the story that won't end, even if nearly everyone wants it to. Now he's sending shoulder MRIs to the Vikings, and if everything goes well, maybe he'll still consider un-retiring for the second time.But whether his shoulder is fine or not, the Vikings need to be aware of how unlikely it is that Favre will be the answer to the team's quarterback problems. The reality is that 40-year-old quarterbacks are very lucky if they make it through the season healthy, asking them to lead a team to the playoffs is too much. The Hall of Fame is filled with quarterbacks who retired as 38 and 39-year-olds, but there are very few 40-year-olds who ever suited up.
In the entire history of the NFL, I was unable to find one quarterback 40 years old or older who led his team to the playoffs as the team's primary quarterback. The only one who came close was Warren Moon in 1996. The Vikings were 4-4 in their first eight games, but he missed the second half of the season with a broken collarbone as Brad Johnson led the team to a first-round playoff loss.
Moon is the patron saint of old quarterbacks--he's the only 40+ QB to ever lead his team to more than six wins--he went 7-7 with the Seahawks in 14 starts as a 41-year-old in 1997. But looking back at the 36
But what jumps out after a little research is just how rare it is to even see a 40-year-old quarterback on the field. In checking the careers of the top 250 quarterbacks in NFL history in career completions, a number that effectively covers anyone with a significant career in NFL history (Charlie Frye is No. 250), there have been only two quarterbacks who ever started six or more games in a season at age 40 or beyond. Moon and Vinny Testaverde each did it three times. Of course Testaverde went 5-10, 2-5 and 2-4 in his three seasons of significant starting time as an over the hill quarterback, so he's not a great argument for Favre to give it one more try.
But the research shows that if you're trying to play quarterback in the NFL as a 40-year-old, it just becomes about impossible to stay healthy enough to go out there week after week. We saw age catch up to Favre last year, as his arm strength disappeared as the season went along. It's highly unlikely that he would avoid some kind of injury again this year. It's true that Favre was indestructible when he was younger, but time catches up to everyone, especially old quarterbacks.
If the Vikings are serious about bringing Favre in, it would make sense for them to sit him down for the first half of the season, then start playing him as the season hits November and December if Sage Rosenfels/Tarvaris Jackson are playing as expected. Or they could use him like Don Shula used Earl Morrall and Don Strock in the twilights of their careers--he would bring them in as relievers to pick up the team when it needed a lift. By doing that, they would be able to save the few bullets left in Favre's arm for when they counted the most.
But it's hard to believe Favre would ever agree to come back for anything less than the starting job from day one. If the Vikings are willing to take that risk, they better be aware that they shouldn't expect to see him quarterbacking the team when January rolls around.



















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5-10-2009 @ 12:48AM
ANTON said...
I agree that Favre's arm gave out by the end of the season. But he was with the Jets and look how many passes he attempted. With the Vikings he would have the best running game in the league. He could save his arm by limiting him to 10 or 15 attempts a game. And now with Harvin aborad, he would fit right into what Favre does best, hit the 8 to 10 yard slant and let Percy do what he does best, yards after catch {YAC}. The jets used Favre wrong, he is very intelligent and learned their system very fast, the Vikes have Favre's old QB coach and they run the same system Favre is used to and likes so he would fit right in. It is a risk, but if they use him right, his arm will last all season and beyond instead of wearing it out like the Jets did. Because the Vikes have the best RB tandum and an all pro O line for protection and a great D, he will be fine. Any other team would be risky but the Vikings are his best option for a return.
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5-10-2009 @ 1:55AM
Mr.G said...
The Jets had pretty good targets for Favre last year with Coles,Cotchery and TE Keller.They also had the AFC's leading rusher in Thomas Jones(1300 + yrds.) and a pretty good defense.Plus,they had a very weak schedule.Minnesota is an overall better team,but they are certainly no successful haven for 40 year old QB's.You can take off the rose colored glasses and stick a fork in Favre...he's done whether he knows it or not..
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5-10-2009 @ 3:16AM
DanMen said...
I'm sicking and tired of Favre like are millions of Americans. He is a crying old baby. Get the hell out of the NFL news.
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5-10-2009 @ 3:35AM
annamwalking said...
Mr.G...you must be HIGH --weak schedule?? LOOOOOOL Favre was tossed around like a ragdoll, for the first 4-5 games....Keller didnt step up until mid-last season. Comparing Minnesota to the Jets right now is ridiculous.
This JJ Cooper is a ham, at best...does he really think HE is telling Minnesota anything they do not know??
Whether any of you like it or not....Favre has a right to play or stay retired! It is his prerogative. Who cares what any of us think...the man earned a right to play and earned the right to change his mind.
But thank goodness JJ Cooper wrote this bit or the Vikings may have never known what they were up against....what a joke!
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5-10-2009 @ 10:07AM
bkind7x said...
Farve had an excellent season last year - until he was injured. He was a league leader.
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5-10-2009 @ 10:21AM
sulu1154 said...
There are now five seasons to the year
Spring, Summer, Falll, Winter, and Farve
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5-10-2009 @ 12:15PM
robb1068 said...
For you Favre apologists (don't forget your next club meeting with Steve Mariucci), he didn't end the season injured. He ended the season old.
You can say, "Oh, but his arm was hurt", but that's what happens in the NFL when your 39 years old and trying to play like your 29. Too much stress on the old body.
If Favre comes back this year, it will happen early in the season and the Vikes will be looking at a 8-8 record.
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5-10-2009 @ 7:40PM
leoganz said...
The Vikings won't be 8-8 this year wih or without Farve. Look at their schedule for 2009 ....very easy.
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5-11-2009 @ 4:59AM
John said...
Brett Favre should have had scheduled for shoulder surgery immediately after the dismal performance against Miami with the playoffs on the line.
There is no risk. Either you can comeback from that surgery and play an entire the season, or at age 40 you just simply take the failed procedure as a sign that it's time to retire.
The Jets went into Tennessee last year and walked away winners ending the Titans unbeaten streak. Favre was at his peak, and if his shoulder hadn't agitated his performance, then it could have very well been the Jets hoisting the Lombardi trophy last year. But that is only if Favre could have maintained his level of performance.
He had an excellent running game with Thomas Jones, but a very subpar receiving corp, yet they still managed an 8-3 record after Tennessee. But since Favre didn't have the surgery, then he is just gambling on the hopes that his shoulder stays healthy. If I'm Minnesota, then I don't take the gamble and just let Sage lead you to the playoffs.
Being a Redskin fan I know Danny Boy would love to start creating a No. 4 jersey with the name Favre on it. But since Brett hasn't been seen anywhere near Dulles airport that tells me Brett has not garnered enough confidence to even be solicited by Snyder. That should tell you something. And that is Favre should have had that surgery.
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5-11-2009 @ 12:25PM
dustnthwind said...
no team has ever went 16-0 in the regular season or 0-16 in the regular season...stuff like that never happens so no one should ever expect it to happen....oops was just told it did happen....guess you can never say never....maybe in a few years we might say only favre has taken a team to the superbowl at the age of 40
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