Jay Cutler is going to the Bears for three draft picks and Kyle Orton. Jay Mariotti has already discussed how much it means to have a good quarterback in Chicago. Still, I bring the voice of the fan, and I've got something to say: I love this move. One thing that's great about sports, though, is there are always opposing fans trying to bring you down. I've taken time to check out many message boards and comments sections across the internet. What I'm finding, for the most part, is that fans of teams other than the Bears think this is a terrible deal. Their "evidence," though, is usually incredibly flawed. Here are some of the reasons people think the deal is poor for the Bears, followed by my rebuttals.
The Bears have always been a running-and-defense team.
What a lame argument. A franchise isn't allowed to go out and try to evolve with the game? The Bears have to stick with the grind-it-out running game because that's what the Monsters of the Midway are supposed to be. According to whom? And why can't they have a good running game, good defense, and a stud quarterback?
Plus, has anyone ever considered how much easier it is to put together a running game than passing? There aren't a lot of quarterbacks out there with the ability to truly lead a pass-heavy offense. Cutler has proven he can do that. The Bears have relied upon the run for the past 20 years, in part, because their quarterbacks have sucked. Has anyone considered that?
Finally, won't Matt Forte, Lance Briggs, Tommie Harris, Brian Urlacher et al be a sight for sore eyes when Cutler reminisces about the junk the Broncos have been providing him under the guise of running and defense?
Cutler won't be able to throw in the cold weather.
I must have forgotten Denver is a warm weather city. In fact, check out the average temperatures by month in Denver and Chicago. Looks a bit similar, no?
I know, Chicago is the Windy City, and Cutler hasn't had to deal with a ton of wind in Denver just yet. Of course, the average wind through the football season months is only 2-3 miles per hour more in Chicago than Denver. Is that really what we're basing all these fallacies upon? Two MPH more is gonna make Cutler's deep pass turn into Kyle Orton's? Get real.
The Bears don't have any receivers.
It's tough to argue this point. The receivers haven't proven anything yet. Then again, have they really had a chance? I can't count the number of times receivers had the coverage beat last season and were severely under or overthrown by Orton. Did anyone watch that Thursday night game against New Orleans? Devin Hester could have had 200 yards and three touchdowns with Jay Cutler. Instead, he did draw a few pass interference calls. Yipee.
There are other things that shouldn't be discounted. Sometimes -- if not all the time -- quarterbacks make receivers. Have you seen Marvin Harrison's numbers before Peyton Manning arrived? How about Randy Moss when he was exiled in Oakland? Were Brandon Marshall (4th round draft pick) and Eddie Royal (2nd round draft pick) really star-quality, or did Cutler make them look the part? If they were star quality, why weren't they first round picks? They weren't hyped until he started getting them the deep ball. It's very possible Cutler made those guys. At the very least, he had a hand in their success.
The Bears do have one of the most explosive players in the league, in Hester. He can be a legitimate deep threat in this league. There is obviously still lots of work that needs to be done, but the transition will be much easier when he's not running 50 yard wind-sprints for nothing every time his number is called.
Earl Bennett was a third round draft pick this past year. He didn't really see the field much his rookie year, but it was only one season. Plus, he caught 79 passes for 876 yards and 9 touchdowns his sophomore year from Jay Cutler at Vanderbilt. They obviously already have a personal rapport, which is very important for a quarterback-receiver relationship.
From there, the cupboard is pretty empty, but all hope is not lost. The Bears still have enough cap room to add someone -- Cutler's cap number is lower than Orton's and they began the offseason with more than $20 million in cap space. They still have a second round draft pick where it's possible Brian Robiskie falls.
Finally, not having studly receivers is hardly a reason to not get a better quarterback -- the most important position in the sport.
Kyle Orton was better for the team.
There really is not much one can do to prove either side of this argument. Personally, I don't see how you could possibly argue Orton is a better quarterback than Cutler. I believe we'll see the results this season, when Orton makes Marshall and Royal look pedestrian while Hester and Bennett grow substantially. But again, that can't be proven just yet.
I love it when people say the Bears are ball control and Cutler's too mistake-prone. You see, Cutler threw 18 picks last season and Orton threw only 12. Using those stats, however, is incredibly misleading. Cutler attempted 151 more passes than Orton. So Orton threw one pick every 39 attempts and Cutler threw one every 34. There's a difference, but not enough of one to negate the superior stats in every other category for Cutler. Plus, Cutler was watching his defense allow 28 points a game. I can excuse a few mistakes while he tries to overcompensate for his atrocious defense.
They gave up too much.
Most of the people saying this haven't had to root for a team with abysmal quarterback play for the past 20 years. They also don't root for a team who drafts so poorly in the first round.
Here is Jerry Angelo's first round history for the Bears: David Terrell, Marc Colombo, Rex Grossman, Michael Haynes, Tommie Harris, Cedric Benson, Greg Olsen and Chris Williams. I count four busts, two good players (Olsen and Harris), and one we still don't know about -- Williams, though it's not looking like full value from where he was picked.
Add that track record to the fact that any player at a positional need who would be left on the board at pick 18 this season, and that was a recipe for disaster. All Bears fans are nodding right now. Angelo was going to waste that pick, and some money in the process. You might reply that if he's so bad at drafting the first round he shouldn't have that job. Well, I totally agree, but we've gotta play with the hand we've been dealt as fans.
The first round pick for next season could certainly hurt, but it's pretty unknown at this point. Remember, there is never a sure thing in the draft. There were a bevy of highly respected professionals who thought Ryan Leaf would be better than Peyton Manning. I'll take the proven over an anonymous future draft pick.
Also, you know where Angelo does excel? Drafting defensive players after the first round. Kevin Payne (5), Corey Graham (5), Danieal Manning (2), Dusty Dvoracek (3), Mark Anderson (5), Nathan Vasher (4), Charles Tillman (2), Lance Briggs (3) and Alex Brown (4) are among his finds. He can still do that these next two years. In a few weeks, he'll have second, fourth, fifth and sixth round picks. In 2010, he'll have all but a first-rounder.
Finally, if the Bears really did overpay -- and time will tell, you can't seriously judge that in the present -- I'm fine with it. I'll give five first-rounders with the chance Cutler can erase the memories of Steve Walsh, Dave Krieg, Shane Matthews, Steve Stenstrom, Rick Mirer (a top-two draft pick, by the way, draft pick-lovers), Moses Moreno, Cade McNown (another one of those first-rounders), Jim Miller, Chris Chandler, Kordell Stewart, Chad Hutchinson, Craig Krenzel, Jonathan Quinn, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton and Brian Griese. Where it wasn't serviceable (as, admittedly, Orton has been), it was flat-out embarrassing -- with no exceptions.
The best Bears quarterback, statistically, since Jim McMahon was Erik Kramer. That's 20 years, people. Who was the best quarterback on your favorite team in the past 20 years? I bet he was better than Kramer -- and he only started 41 games for the Bears.
Finally, had Cutler compiled his statistical lines the past three seasons on the Bears, he'd be the best quarterback in the history of the franchise in terms of completion percentage and quarterback rating. Seriously.
It's pretty simple, something drastic had to be done to reverse the fortunes of the franchise with this position.
Cutler is a whiny baby.
I won't argue that his actions over the course of the past two months have been immature and made him appear a prima donna. I've even written before that he comes across as an arrogant baby.
Let's just think about a scenario, though. Let's say you are one of the best at your job -- remember, Cutler threw for over 4,000 yards and made the Pro Bowl. All of a sudden, you get a new boss and you hear his first order of business is to replace you with someone you deem inferior. Wouldn't you start looking for a new job? Wouldn't you feel disdain toward your new boss? Now, remember how you felt about things when you were 25 years-old.
Obviously, you wouldn't go public and refuse to answer phone calls from the owner. I get that. I also understand that none of us are professional athletes. We don't have our every move followed and published for all to see.
With this in mind, I can forgive Cutler for his actions with this mess, now that it is behind him. He now has a clean slate, and we'll see if he's ready to step up to the challenge. He deserves that much from all of us. It's also worth noting that Cutler's former teammates seemed to have liked him as both a player and a person.
You know what's funny? I've seen a lot more commenters saying that Michael Vick has a "right to earn a living" than commenters who have defended Cutler. Um, wanting a trade because you feel betrayed doesn't deserve forgiveness, but torturing animals does? Please explain.
Cutler has a losing record and hasn't been to the playoffs.
This is by far the most absurd argument of the bunch. By this logic, why is Rex Grossman gone? He went 13-3 in his only full season as starter and took the Bears to a Super Bowl. If you want to argue that the defense and special teams carried him, I'm going to have to hear back why you can talk about defense helping a quarterback but not hurting him. Again, Cutler's defense in Denver was pathetic. Only the Lions were worse last season. I'd argue the Broncos wouldn't have won more than three games without Cutler.
Plus, there is this: When the Broncos gave up more than 20 points in Cutler's tenure, he was 8-19. When they allowed 20 points or less? He was 9-1.
I don't even know why I bothered with that above nugget, because judging any individual athlete in football based upon wins and losses is archaic. We need to evolve and be better than that. As fans, writers, broadcasters, coaches, general managers, and players, I'm asking everyone to be better than just looking at wins and losses when trying to evaluate an individual player. As I said above, Grossman went 13-3 and took a team to the Super Bowl in his only full season as a starter, yet he's unemployed. Kyle Orton has a career 21-12 record. Are you going to sit there and tell me both are better quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers (6-10 record) or Matt Schaub (10-14 record)?
As far as the playoffs, Brett Favre went through four seasons and 45 career starts without a playoff berth. How did his career turn out? (I'm not comparing Cutler and Favre, I'm just establishing how off-base it is to try and nail Cutler for missing the playoffs through two full seasons as a starter)
Too many circumstances go into wins and losses and the playoffs to simply pin them on one player. Quarterback is the most important position in football, but it's most certainly not the only one.
Final Thought
Look, I'm not saying this makes the Bears an instant Super Bowl contender. It doesn't -- not yet at least. They have, however, locked down a quality player at the most important position for the next 10 years. The last pro-bowl quarterback in Chicago was Jim McMahon, and you could argue he only went due to his supporting cast.
And I'll tell you what, if you want to bet that Kyle Orton ends up with a better career than Jay Cutler, well, you know where to find me.


















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4-03-2009 @ 3:49PM
Favorite said...
I agree with you. Not only is this a great personnel move, but it also keeps the fans interest in the team (when there really hasn't been much to be excited about), and allows Angelo a couple more years of abysmal management.
Lastly, this makes the Bears, in my opinion, an instant favorite in the division.
***You should do an article on how the Pirates got beat in an exhibition game by a community college.
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4-03-2009 @ 4:14PM
niktex0205 said...
When Lovie yells at him Cutler is going to say Whaaaaaaa!
if you yell at me again im leaving ...Sniff...Sniff So there you big stupid headed dumb dumb! Way to go Bears you just got yourself a Very big baby on your hand.Phillip Rivers was right when he called him a baby.Seriously though Da Bears did get a little better but without a receiver do you seriously think you can win a division or further? Ask Jacksonville.
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4-03-2009 @ 4:43PM
soulcitysigma1914 said...
i feel you in most senses but i still have some objections. the biggest of which is your comments about WRs. Cutler is a stud QB but Marshall and Royal are stud WRs as well. I don't care if they were 4th and 2nd round pix (AWESOME WRS COME OUT THE SECOND ROUND REGULARLY BTW). WR is probably the most deceiving position regarding draft position, sans QB of course. THink about other receivers who have been pretty doggone good at some point: Steve Smith (3rd round), T.O. (3rd round), Marques Colston (7th round), Housh (7th round), Chad Johnson & Isaac Bruce (2nd round), Donald Driver (7th round), Wes Welker (undrafted). You get the point.
Now take that crybaby and put him in a situation where he is throwing to a cornerback (Hester) and to brandon lloyd. the outcome can't be good. A little bit of teasing from the sidelines by Aaron Rogers twice a year compounded w/ those frustrations with the receivers, and you'll soon have Jeff George Volume II on your hands. Bennett had better be able to emerge in the pro-game.
I just don't see the Bears having the receivers to put in the type of offense that is both going to help Cutler flourish and keep him happy. And I think even great QBs need decent receivers to work. I think inability to get chemistry w/ the receivers was part of Kurt Warner's problem in New York and also has caused frustration w/ Carson Palmer in Cincinatti (he had 3 good WRs there, but you could tell he and Chad don't have the best chemistry all the time and Chris Henry doesn't give his all on the field even though he's a stellar talent).
Also, I happen to be 25 btw, and no i can't just throw a tantrum whenever my boss does something i don't like, which is a lot of the time. neither can any of my 22-25 year old friends. If he's the immature sort of 25 year old, he doesn't need to lead a football team w/ as much of a proud, long history in this league as any team probably has. After 3 years in the league, you have to grow up, that's all there is to it. You can have your rookie and sophomore growing pains but I believe Cutler is going into his fourth year; the fact that he doesn't act like a veteran now (even if he can play like one) is dangerous. Even though he's a jerk, I'd take a tough young QB like Philip Rivers (the guy played in a playoff game injured) over a softy like Cutler or Vince Young to build my franchise around any day.
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4-03-2009 @ 6:59PM
PaulGregson said...
I don't doubt Cutler's immaturity and there was probably wrongdoing on both sides, but the key mover and shaker in this, to me, was Bus Cook, Cutler's agent. Cutler's contract was (I believe) for 6 years with the majority of the money coming in the first three years. I also believe Cutler is due less than $2 million in '09 and somewhere around that figure in '10. So going to the Bears is a chance for Cook to sit down with Jerry Angelo and carve out a nice new front-loaded contract.... say 6 years and $78 million with $24 million up front ? To me, the FIRST reason for Cutler being out of Denver was his agent's manipulation for more money. Not bad economics, for sure, as Cutler probably was looking at a total of less than $10 million over the next three years. Now, that all changes.
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4-03-2009 @ 7:15PM
insulationserv said...
Being a lions fan (yeah I know) I must admit I am jealous as hell as I sincerly wanted Cutler to come here. That being said, I think Bears fans in general overrate Hester as a wide reciever quite a bit. Sure you saw Hester open, because defenses knew Ortons tendencies. Given Cutlers gunslinger tendency, if your recievers aren't open, he's gonna throw it anyways and thus you get a ton of piks. Soon his confidence erodes and you got crap. Sorry, but I thought Cutler to megtron was 100x more potent than Cutler to Hester.
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4-03-2009 @ 7:22PM
Matt Snyder said...
Well, yeah ... I agree with your last line. Megatron is an elite talent, maybe even the most talented WR in the league (up there with Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald).
4-03-2009 @ 10:29PM
bears0492 said...
Its true that we may overrate Hester as a WR, but that is because we regularly see Hester's potential when he is playing. He's fast, elusive, is good at route running, and can get yards after the catch. With some more experience, Hester can become a really good receiver. He showed how talented he can be at the end of the season where he played excellent.
And let's not forget that WRs have learning curves in the NFL. This was Hester's second year as an NFL Wr, and his first as a starter. Give him some time, and he will be a star.
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4-04-2009 @ 2:39AM
BigCheese said...
Great article, agree with you all the way. Just one point, the Bears DO have a third-rounder this year. Granted, it's at the end of the third round as a compensatory pick, but it's still a third-rounder.
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4-04-2009 @ 2:42AM
alvaroim said...
When Lovie yells at Cutler? Is that going to be right after the Tuna spoils Pennington by coddling him too much?
I understand you're sour because your new coach jsut gave away your franchise QB, but please, at least have SOME notion about what you're about to post before doing it.
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4-04-2009 @ 2:43AM
BigCheese said...
When Lovie yells at Cutler? Is that going to be right after the Tuna spoils Pennington by coddling him too much?
I understand you're sour because your new coach jsut gave away your franchise QB, but please, at least have SOME notion about what you're about to post before doing it.
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4-04-2009 @ 1:25PM
Matt Snyder said...
Yeah, I thought that comment was hilarious, too. The thought of Lovie yelling at anyone just makes me laugh.
4-04-2009 @ 9:10AM
Bryan said...
thank you for writing this. you took the words right out of my mouth. one thing i would add too is Drew Brees. remember they were running him out of san diego his third year cause he was going nowhere. look at him now. he's a machine. i am expecting the same from cutler. but the bears have a defense which the saints don't have. the bears are definitely looking good. forget about those idiotic experts and fairwether fans.
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4-04-2009 @ 9:59AM
becarefulangel said...
The difference is, both teams got a good result from that situation. The Saints got a talented QB in Drew Brees and the Chargers were able to develop Phillip Rivers into a Pro Bowl QB.
4-04-2009 @ 1:45PM
soulcitysigma1914 said...
they ran brees out of San Diego because of a serious injury he suffered and instead of taking chances on him recovering, they decided they'd start building up a young promising first round draft pick who was a superstar at NC State. At no point was Brees' talent as a qb questioned in San Diego.
4-05-2009 @ 1:51AM
bears25 said...
I agree the bears wr's are weak compared to most teams, but the bears have good TE's with Olsen and Clark and a RB (Forte) that can catch the ball pretty well. Everybody seems to forget about these positions, and they will be a factor in the bears passing game.
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4-05-2009 @ 7:03AM
Bryan said...
In response to soulcitysigma1914 about Drew Brees. Yeah he did have that injury but what I was referring to was up to that point if you can recall they were talking about what a but he was. The word on the street was that he was just another QB who wasn't living up to expectations. He had a bad 2003 and if I remember correctly Doug flutie had even replaced him in that season. Drew Brees played better in '04 because the frontoffice said they were going to "draft" a QB, he got pissed and had a good year. He had a gigantic salary heading into his final year of his contract and the owner was in love with Rivers. Yeah he got the injury but that just made it easier for the Chargers to not resign and go the way the really wanted to, with Rivers.
All I was sayin people is don't get caught up in the why Jay Cutler sucks talk. It's ludicrous.
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4-05-2009 @ 1:41PM
shadydaze7 said...
I have to say that it was great getting Cutler but I think the Bears need alot more players to get back to the Super Bowl. Hester has speed but hasn't proven himself as a durable starter for a whole season yet and I really feel he is will not make it. Forte had a great rookie year and I only hope he doesn't hit the sophmore jinx. They need another WR on the other side of Hester but are set at TE. I hope Jay is ready to get hit this year as we all know that the Bears line gave up alot more sacks then he had in Denver last year. On the defesive side of the ball the Bears are ageing and could have used the draft picks they sent to Denver to fill some spots. It is going to be a long season for the Bears and Cutler but if they make the right moves in free agency next year they can build a team around Jay. That being said I think that everyone knows this is a move for the future and could pan out to be a great move in 2 to 3 years as long as Cutler can take the beating this year and deal be a team player.
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4-07-2009 @ 10:31AM
Woody said...
Most of the people who don't like this trade are not Bears fan. Most of the are probably fans of teams that wish they had Cutler or are sour Denver fans. So, run your mouth now. It'll only be valid after the seasons over and what you "say will happen" happens. OK? The Bear can do well next year. You'll still be running your mouth. That's fine. You're probably a miserable person and find the negative in everything. So, your just being who you normaly are.
Bears fans love it for the most part. I'm excited and I believe it will work out. He might not throw for 4,500 yard again but the Bears will do better and they have a very good chance of winning the NFC North and making the play offs.
I will say this though. If the Defense can be like it was in 2005 and 2006. It's going to be an exciting season!
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