This season hasn't been full of good news for Green Bay Packer fans.Not that any of them should be asking for sympathy. In an era of increasing "parity" among NFL teams, the Packers strung together an impressive string of seasons. Green Bay has just one sub-.500 finish since 1992, by far the least of any NFL franchise.
However, this year's team is in danger of making it two sub-.500 finishes since 1992, as the Packers are at 5-6 and staring at a third year out of four without a playoff berth. While blind, gullible, and stupid people are bound to blame this on Aaron Rodgers, the real reasons behind Green Bay's subpar record go much deeper than anything Rodgers could be fairly blamed for.
One of those reasons is extremely uneven play from the Packers defense. Part of this is injury-related, as Green Bay has lost starters on the defensive line (Cullen Jenkins is injured, and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila was ineffective before being cut) and at linebacker (Nick Barnett is injured). In the secondary, safeties Atari Bigby and Aaron Rouse have been in and out of the lineup because of injury, and cornerback Al Harris had to battle back from a potentially season-ending spleen problem. These injuries have tested Green Bay's depth, which hasn't responded well.
When Harris was out, youngster Tramon Williams started and played okay. If Harris is right, Packer fans will be seeing more of Williams and some other young players next season.
Although he said he hasn't spoken to general manager Ted Thompson about it, he believes with the team's stable of young cornerbacks - Tramon Williams, who played well as a starter in Harris' place, as well as Will Blackmon and Pat Lee - behind him, the club will move him during the offseason for a draft pick.It's an interesting prediction, and there is probably some precedent for it if you look at Gbaja-Biamila's release. However, that precedent goes away if you consider that "KGB" simply wasn't producing. It wasn't a money move, as the Packers are far under the salary cap. Instead, it was a move made because other players who were candidates to be cut were more productive in their roles than Gbaja-Biamila was.
"I think that's going to happen. And not from my performance or anything, but we're going young," Harris said. "I haven't talked to Ted about it. I've just got a gut feeling that that's the direction our team is headed. That's what happens in the league. I just have to make sure that I'm on top of my game.
"Every game I play is an audition. I have to make sure that I put good stuff on tape."
Harris, meanwhile, is still a productive player for the Packers. While I don't think he is a lock to be starting opposite Charles Woodson in 2009, I do think it would be a mistake for the Packers to trade or cut him. As Jason Wilde notes, Harris has been in Pro Bowl form since returning from his spleen injury for the Tennessee game. Even as the Saints were abusing the Packer defense on Monday night, Drew Brees only threw one ball in Harris' direction. It was incomplete.
I find Harris' prediction to be oddly-timed, and I hope this is nothing more than Harris misreading the proverbial tea leaves. Thompson has made few mistakes since taking over as the general manager after the 2004 season. Letting Harris go by any means would be, by far, the biggest. I understand the concept of trying to get something of value for a veteran player who is still under contract if you feel that player is about to slip in his play. But an effective Harris is the kind of player who can make this defense better. If he continues playing at a high level, the secondary will easily show that Monday night was nothing more than a disastrous aberration.
Frankly, while Williams has been okay, he's also had his moments of poor play. His coverage technique needs refinement, and while he has a lot more speed than Harris, he's simply not as instinctive. The guys behind Williams - the likes of Pat Lee, Will Blackmon, and Jarrett Bush - are severely combustible. I don't think this team is ready to try to play 16 games without Harris, and I don't think they should be so quick to jettison Harris simply because of his age.
(Via MDS at PFT)



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
11-28-2008 @ 9:39PM
Mitch said...
Ted Thompson is an idiot, he'll trade him because he can and probably waste the draft pick on another Justin Harrell.
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12-04-2008 @ 9:15AM
chris said...
TT is an egotistical dick. Just look at his reaction to the fans the last 2 years in the Lambeau Field Atrium after the draft when the fans roused him with boos. Instead of taking the high road and ignoring them, he chose to shake his head and laugh like he was about to address a bunch of high schoolers heckeling. He WILL trade or release Al Harris this offseason. Harris is one of the last links to the pre-TT era. This is HIS team now and he will do with it what he wants (#4). Most Packer fans are too dense to think for themselves and choose to believe the force feeding of the Milw Journal Sentinal and Gannett news sources. To the clown who thinks the Pack are a FA signing away from dominance- where the F have you been? TT doesn't throwm $ at FA's (Woodson the ONLY exception) even if the team is $25mil under the cap. I'm sure, like any other GM or CEO, he gets a fat bonus for keeping his corporation in the black. Why did TT sign KGB and Bubba to nice contracts only to release them a short while later? Depth? What? Why wasn't Corey Williams franchise tagged? Will the 4th rounder they got in return be anything near the player Williams was? Fact is- this is Ted Thompsons team, not yours as the Packer fan. Get used to it until he is forced out. TT preaches young talent and building through the draft for the future. His last employer, the Seattle Seahawks, think he's a hypocrite.
11-28-2008 @ 10:54PM
Spoonman said...
I agree with Mitch. I don't think Thompson can draft as well as he thinks he can, and is likely to drop a player for a draft pick. I think the sooner he is gone, the sooner the Packers are a better team.
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11-29-2008 @ 2:14AM
§ said...
Having no depth is a sign of a weak franchise
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11-29-2008 @ 2:29AM
mailman said...
Al harris always looks good against mediocre players,but when facing good receivers he gets schooled.Perfect example,Plaxico Buress in the NFC championship game.He was an embarassment to the green and gold, trying to muscle him around, all the while getting burnt every time Eli threw at him.Nothing but a showboatin,poor tacklin never was with ridiculous long locks.I won't miss him if he gets sent packin. As for Thompson he reminds me of Dick Cheny cause every time he gives a press conference he looks like he stole something,I think Favre was right about him.
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11-29-2008 @ 12:04PM
pack fan said...
al harris is still very good. no cornerback can cover without a decent pass rush.
11-29-2008 @ 2:56PM
dan said...
A solid season or two of cornerback play is usually going to be worth more than a draft pick. Keep Harris. He's also a warrior. Let's see Chuck Norris come back that quick from spleen injury.
That being said, somebody's gotta' calm Harris down in big games. ...along with the whole team, really. When the lights get bright, they completely stop playing their game and switch it for the game of a bunch of drunken monkeys.
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11-30-2008 @ 8:37AM
Peyton, Waukesha said...
Rogers, McCarthy, and Thompson are at least the majority of blame for not having a better season, at least winning the division. There is no leadership in Rogers' playmaking. Just to prove, last week Rogers passing was pathetic. 3 times he threw the ball low; 7 times he threw behind the receiver, 3 caught with no yardage after the catch; and 4 times he over threw the ball, and one would have been a touch down. Show me a interview transcript where Rogers had anything great to say about his offensive line and receivers. And to thoughts of you that are at the game today, just watch Rogers after a series, how he doesn't intermix with his teammates. Rogers is a bench warmer. 80% of the time he's on the bench or by himself on the sidelines. Rogers might be a good/great QB, but not a good/great team player.
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11-30-2008 @ 2:19PM
Ventura Packer said...
We probably shouldn't look beyond the defensive play calling as well. While the personnel issues have played a role, what happened to the agressive defensive of last year? No Blitzing? The Packer defense has gone back to waiting for teams to come to them. If you look at the history of the Packers and the NFL NO team has won consistently without an agressive defense. Come on guys, let's take some chances, what do we have to lose?
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11-30-2008 @ 6:10PM
Dave 45 said...
Hope they trade him to the JETS, along with Driver and Jennings and Jones, then the Packers will really be set to be in last place every year. You Screwed Brett and the fans, hope you get run out of town..
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11-30-2008 @ 4:35PM
WKLINE said...
If Thompson had worried half as much about the defense and shoring it up in case of injury as he did about Brett Farve coming back and ruining his ego trip this team would have wrapped up the division already. It takes foresight to be a top GM and Thompson is behaving like a ball boy. This was a super bowl team before he upset the karma with the quarterback bungle. Money would have solved that situation, Rodgers would have taken it or be gone. Farve would have provided stability over the whole team, and the defense would not have to kill themselves to put away the opponents. Egos, egos, eeegggooosss. Show Thompson the door now, call Ron Wolfe in as a consultant and find a talent to fill the GM seat before the coach decides he is smart enough to srew it up more.
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11-30-2008 @ 6:17PM
icemantmk@aol.com said...
The Pack is getting what it deserves. I was at the Vikes Pack season opener. What a bunch of rude drunk jerk fans. The only class of the bunch left and went to the Big Apple. To bad cry baby Thompson didn't let the classiest guy ever in the Pack organization play where he wanted. Go play a polka.
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11-30-2008 @ 11:56PM
Crypt said...
Remember earlier in the season when the fans at Lambeau were holding up signs that read, “Favre Who?” and “Mr. Rodgers’ Neighborhood?” Somebody should have warned those fans that Mr. Rodgers’ Neighborhood was in foreclosure! Bye-bye playoffs, even 9 – 7 just won’t get it done. From legitimate contenders to sitting at home and watching the games on your rear enders, see how far the mighty have fallen! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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12-01-2008 @ 4:49PM
EX PACK FAN said...
Teddy and Mikey need to catch the next train out of town, because it's leaving the station. I told everyone when they let Brett go, this team was going to have problems, and teddy was no draft guru. But everyone was believing that this team was going to the playoffs without a 3 TIME MVP,FUTURE HALL OF FAMER. Green Bay 5-7 Jets 9-4. I NOW ROOT FOR THE PACK TO LOSE, SO THOSE EGOTISTICAL MORONS ARE KICKED OUT SOONER.
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12-03-2008 @ 4:15AM
Denzel Shareef said...
I do think it'll be a mistake if Ted Thompson get rid of Al Harris thid offseason, that said I also think that it's not fair for alot of people to attack Ted Thompson either. Don't you guys remember 4-12? How about last years 13-3? Ted Thompson turned a slow aging team into a young competitive team. This year the Packers are not as good as last year, but that said they also are just a few peices away from being that 13-3 team of last year, maybe even better. Injuries have decimated this team. The pass rush is a skeleton of last years team. But if the Packers can somehow get a bonafide pass rusher, on top of Cullen Jenkins returning, you'd have a secondary that could be even more special than the one we saw just a couple weeks ago aginst Chicago, and Indianapolis. I know a couple players the Packers could afford on the free agent market this upcoming season that would automatically take this team back to the playoffs. THINK: ALBERT HAYNESWORTH or JULIUS PEPPERS, either player would make Aaron Kampman the happiest DE in the league. The think about Cullen Jenkins and all his pass rush coming back.....The Packers have 4 losses this season where they've lost by 4 points or less. Those pass rushers would turn atleast two losses into victories by themselves.
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12-03-2008 @ 5:05AM
elyhighschool said...
TIGERS!!!!
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1-09-2009 @ 6:48PM
Ghosthunter said...
So most of you guys are complete idiots. Hey Peyton, Waukesha its spelled Rodgers with a "D," Im convinced you saw alot of these on your report card. Ex PACK fan why dont you stay an ex fan, cause we dont need guys like you rooting for us to lose. And for the rest of you I love Favre but he retired and came back we moved on leave it at that and Rodgers stepped in and threw for over 4,000 yards and produced two thousand yard Wr's. We needed a mobile Qb to step in cause we will soon be breaking in new tackles and Favre cant avoid the rush like he was able to. The only way we would have made the playoffs with Favre is if he learned to stop the run or rush the passer. Or Favre could heal Jenkins or Nick B. So people let it go, A-Rod is a Pro-Bowl Caliber player. Hell if he played in Big D he would be in the Pro-Bowl and dating Carrie Underwood already. As for Harris might as well grab a pick for him cause we wont re-sign him next year
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