So you had the Steelers and were giving 4.5 or 5 points, you may have thought you were getting screwed by referee Scott Green's decision to overturn Troy Polamalu's final-play touchdown. Now you can know for sure.After the game, Green said he blew it:
So the final score should have been Steelers 17, Chargers 10 (or Steelers 18, Chargers 10 if they made the Steelers kick the extra point). Instead it's Steelers 11, Chargers 10. Very few decisions will do more to anger gamblers and fantasy football players around the country.Reporter: "So if the first pass didn't hit the ground, why was the play killed?'
Green: "We didn't kill it on the field. After discussion we decided there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about, and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground, and therefore we killed the play there.'
Reporter: "But the second pass was legal?'
Green: "I know. The rule was misinterpreted.'
Reporter: "So it should have been a touchdown?'
Green: "We should have let the play go through in the end, yes. It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through.'
And while it's unlikely it will come down to this, point differential is also a tiebreaker for NFL playoff spots, so there's a very small chance that the mistake could cost the Steelers a playoff spot or seeding as well.
But there's one thing I don't understand. Green said he misinterpreted the rule. There are very few times in NFL history that such a screw-up can be fixed after the fact, but in this case it can. Why can't the NFL just announce that the mistake will be fixed, the final score is Steelers 17, Chargers 10, and everyone walks away happy (except gamblers who bet on the Chargers). In almost any other instance, you can't go back and fix a misinterpreted rule because the rest of the game after that screw-up would have been played differently, but in this case, it already was the final play of the game, so announcing that the touchdown did count would simply right the wrong.
But the NFL isn't likely to do that, and over the next couple of days, they'll likely try to downplay how many dollars changed hands over their end-of-game screwup.





















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
11-17-2008 @ 8:06AM
Tanya said...
I thought once they kicked the extra point then the play before that is official no matter what???
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11-17-2008 @ 8:31AM
John said...
They never kicked the extra point. And when a touchdown is made at the end of the game, and the extra point has no bearing on the outcome, it is NOT kicked by rule. As an official, the play was still botched and should've been ruled a touchdown, game over...final score--17-10.
11-17-2008 @ 8:13AM
BlueStarDude said...
This was so obviously a fix situation (money was 2-to-1 on the Steelers) -- I don't know how we can go on talking about NFL games seriously anymore.
Dear Mr. Goodell: Goodbye, and good luck w/ the BS you oversee.
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11-17-2008 @ 8:36AM
Grandi said...
Great explanation John. I checked and you are absolutely right. Maybe YOU should reffed the game, LOL.
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11-17-2008 @ 8:47AM
James! said...
When did they change that rule, John?
At one time, they were forced to kick the PAT even after the game had ended.
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11-17-2008 @ 8:58AM
Cyrrus said...
They didn't.. the PAT is an untimed play and is kicked at the end of regulation on a touchdown (which is why they lined up to kick it in the Steelers game). OT is the only time that this does not happen.
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11-17-2008 @ 9:11AM
george said...
If extra pts are NOT kicked by rule at the end of the game, then why were they lined up to0 kick it Einstein?
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11-17-2008 @ 9:53AM
Chris said...
How many times was Harrison held yesterday? Answer: Just about every play. Either the officials have it in for the Steelers or they are trying to keep Harrison from destroying a quarterback. He is a beast.
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11-17-2008 @ 3:44PM
selina said...
rigged rigged rigged! where was there a forward pass? they orginally said it was the second pass, that Tomlinson threw at the 26 where it was picked off at the 24 by Polamalu. How is that a forward pass? stupid. everyone wants to talk about Vegas, what about my fantasy points? I'm gonna take a loss this week cause not only do i not get the fumble recovery i also don't get the touchdown that these jokers say was legit. Rediculous!!!
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11-17-2008 @ 6:05PM
Larry said...
You are correct in that it was an incomplete lateral pass. You are incorrect on the touchdown, the refs were right but for the wrong reason. An incomplete lateral is technically not a fumble, it is a loose ball yes that can be recovered by the defense, but the defense cannot advance it. Pittsburgh ball first down at the point of recovery.
11-17-2008 @ 4:37PM
Jasper said...
It just makes you wonder. If NBA refs were wagering why not the NFL. I don't know too much about fantasy football but between gambling and fantasy football you are talking about a large % of their viewers. Who else do they think will be watching tonight's game. They had best treat us fairly or risk losing a ton of viewers.
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11-17-2008 @ 6:10PM
Larry said...
There was a couple seconds left on the clock, therefore the extra point could have been kicked if the touchdown was allowed. If time has expired then there is no extra point attempt.
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11-23-2008 @ 10:11PM
Enoch_Root said...
"Larry said...
There was a couple seconds left on the clock, therefore the extra point could have been kicked if the touchdown was allowed. If time has expired then there is no extra point attempt."
No. You are wrong. There was no time left on the clock. The clock hit zero as Palomalu was batting the ball down. Extra points are kicked no matter what when a TD is scored in or at the end of regulation. They are not kicked in OT.
11-17-2008 @ 11:25PM
Brad said...
So how much did this game rob from everybody here?
Me — $2,000 on a $2 bet. 11/12 against the spread because I had Pittsburgh. I feel dirty.
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11-18-2008 @ 11:00AM
dullard said...
I'd have never believed it, but I think this was fixed. Too many weird things at once:
* Penalties 13-1 against, and many late flags wiping out big plays / gains, and on some very dubious calls.
* Two other flags thrown against SD, both "picked-up".
* And on the final play they had the following:
a) Called a review with no time left on the clock, on a play that could not effect the outcome, other than points.
b) Saw incontrovertable evidence of a forward pass on the tape, that no one else can find.
c) Mis-interpreted the rule, such as not to allow the steelers to decline the penalty and keep the result of the play.
Hard to think they could make all these mistakes after 5 min review of the tape. So, either you believe this is coincidental, or its intentional. To me that later seems more plausible.
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11-18-2008 @ 2:25PM
J.T. said...
The refs called 115 yards worth of penalties on the Steelers and blew the last call robbing the Steelers of points. The fix was definatley in. And the commish is in on it. He fines players thousands of dollars for having the "audacity" to question the refs.
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11-23-2008 @ 10:13PM
Enoch_Root said...
And the defense can always advance a loose ball in the NFL. I am not sure what rule book you think you are referencing...
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