Once a week FanHouse's resident referee will chime in with thoughts on major topics relating to officiating. We call it The Zebra Report.Once again, the NFL's only famous official came under significant scrutiny this week ... and the game was on a national stage, being the Monday night contest between the Vikings and the Saints. There were two calls in particular that we'll check out.
Incident 1: Reggie Bush's facemask mangled, and no one saw it.
MDS already covered this here on FanHouse, but I wanted to point a few things out. First of all, please do not blame Hochuli. If you blame him, you don't know anything about officiating. Ed Hochuli is the referee, and the ball was moving away from him. If he was in proper position -- and I'm assuming he was -- he would have been watching the lineman on the backside and protecting the quarterback from unnecessary roughness. Even if he did glance over at the ball, which admittedly we have a tendency to do, he would have seen Bush's head turn from behind.
You still can't assume that's a facemask from his point of view. Allow me to present a scenario:
A defensive player goes to tackle a ball carrier. In doing so, he grabs in the inside of the shoulder pads in the neck area of said ball carrier. It is very possible to violently turn the ball carrier's head in this manner of tackling, and I see it quite frequently at the younger levels. Invariably you'll have a coach and a handful of fans screaming for a facemask call, because they saw it from behind and assumed. As an official, you can't assume. If you see something that might be a facemask, you have to trust that a fellow crew mate will have seen the play from the front and will make the proper call.
And that's where Hochuli's mates failed him. I count four guys that could have seen the facemask, and at least two of them should have caught it. There should always be at least two sets of eyes on the ball, and the umpire, head linesman, side judge, and back judge all would have had the opportunity to see this. It is unacceptable to me that at least two didn't. By having zero flags, they failed miserably.
Incident 2: Adrian Peterson didn't fumbleLet's be real here, no matter which way the call went there would have been a public outcry. We must completely discount the opinions of all Vikings fans and Saints fans here (sorry Mantz), because you can't possibly judge a play when you have a pre-existing bias.
Really, this was as close as you'll ever see. The ball came out about simultaneously as the knee hit the ground, so it's an interpretation game. Hochuli's explanation is one that I can buy, but not one with which I agree. I believe the ball starting to spin before it comes out means it was loose. I would have ruled a fumble. Of course, I officiate high school and he's an NFL veteran, so you have to respect his opinion over mine based upon pedigree.
I do think this was close enough that the overriding factor is the call on the field. Had it been ruled a fumble, it wasn't getting changed either. That was so close that you aren't going to have "indisputable visual evidence."
Moving on from Ed ...
Incident 3: Brutal double-foul exchange in Baltimore
Guys, this is as bad as it gets. Basically, the game was over and the Ravens were going to get the win. Fourth and long, the Titans offense commits a false start. A false start. False starts are never live ball fouls like illegal formation or illegal motion are. Ever. Immediately the play must be stopped for a false start. The two wing officials (line judge and head linesman) should have been busting their humps to get into the play and make sure it never happened. Instead, the play happens, a defensive lineman waves his arm past the QB -- his arm nicking Kerry Collins on the helmet -- and gets flagged for roughing the passer. Seriously, look at the picture in the link on the first line of this paragraph. That's what got called.
The official reports that "by rule, we ignore the false start penalty." Well, that's true ... sort of. False start is supposed to be a dead ball foul, and if a more severe dead ball foul occurs, you do ignore it. Say the offense false starts and, as the officials are running in to stop the play, a defensive lineman clocks the QB in the head. The way we saw the penalty administered Sunday would be his this scenario is ruled.
The problem is, the play should have never happened, and the "roughing" was a joke. Bill Carollo was the referee, and he claimed the officials were trying to stop the play. They obviously didn't try hard enough. You have seven guys all armed with whistles. Do your job.
Incident 4: Waved off flag on DeSean Jackson's touchdown
DeSean Jackson takes back a punt. At the point of attack, which I explained last week, a member of the return team hits an opponent in the middle of the back. The nearest official throws his flag. Watch in this video at the nine second mark ... right when Jackson breaks across the numbers. There is a defender below the field marking zero (of the 30 yard-line).
It's blatant.
So the crew got it right.
And then they got together in true, "too many cooks in the kitchen" fashion, and picked up the flag. The explanation had something to do with the kicking team, which loses me. That was a textbook block in the back.
Incident 5: Roughing the passer on Steelers
James Harrison said it exactly right. He was full speed and hit David Garrard a split-second after Garrard released the ball.
Incidents 6: Tons of 15-yarders in that same game
I'm not sure if the NFL told the officials to watch extra hard, but the crew seemed pretty flag happy when it came to "personal foul ... unnecessary roughness." There were even a few taunting calls when said taunting didn't even seem to malicious. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to this crew here, because we can't hear what's being said and sometimes the game dictates more preventative calls of this nature.
They do need to beware, though, because calling everything like this creates a slippery slope of what constitutes a personal foul.
Incident 7: Pass interference on Packers
I haven't seen this play, so I'll let our own Bruce Ciskie explain:
Bogus pass interference called on Pat Lee of Green Bay yesterday. He broke up a third-and-long pass intended for Roddy White, and a flag came flying in from an official 25 yards behind the play. The contact looked minimal at best, Lee was playing the ball and not the man, he didn't appear to arrive early, and the flag came from an official who had no chance of seeing the "contact" happen, because White and Lee both had their backs to him. The official on the sideline who was in front of the play didn't throw his flag.If this went down the way Bruce described it, that flag needs to get picked up. It's all in there ... the defender played the ball and not the receiver, didn't make contact early, and therefore didn't get an unfair advantage. He's just as entitled the play the ball as the offensive player.
He also didn't appear to try to talk the out-of-position official out of making the call.
I do want to take the opportunity to opine about the positioning statements, though. One thing I find hilarious is how far people can see in real life, but once they become officials, they are thought to be blind unless within 10 feet of a play. It's even funnier when you hear someone from up in the crowd screaming, "you can't see that from there." Dude, if I can't see a block in the back from 25 yards away, how you can even tell what's happening in the game from 100 away and 15 feet up the stands?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with throwing a long flag, as long as you saw the whole play. In this case, though, if a nearer official didn't believe it was interference, he definitely should have talked the flagger into picking it up; as Bruce implied.
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Finally, I'd like to take the opportunity to discuss Mr. Hochuli's penchant for giving lengthy explanations over the stadium's P.A. system. There are two sides to this: 1. Going to the mic to say things like, "there is no pass interference on the play because the ball was tipped at the line of scrimmage" seems unnecessary. The coaches and the players all know the rule and understand why it wasn't called. It really seems like pandering to the crowd in reaction to getting booed. I'd love to be able to tell idiots from the stands screaming for illegal contact in high school that there is no such rule at that level ... but the coaches know it, so why bother with uneducated fans? Let them boo. It seems to make people feel tough.
2. Of course, Hochuli's long-windedness is helpful when it comes to replay. How much more frustrating would it be if he just came out after replay and said, "the call stands." Or what if he just said, "the play is going to be challenged," but didn't tell us why? You'd be begging for one of those long explanations.
There's a happy medium there, and the referees should hopefully stay in that medium.
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That's all the time we have for this week. Feel free to hit up the mailbag with calls you'd like analyzed.



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
10-07-2008 @ 2:56PM
Brody said...
As soon as I saw those plays in the Saints/Vikings game, all I could say was "Poor Hoch." The guy is again going to get crucified by stupid fans that don't actually know the rules.
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10-07-2008 @ 4:01PM
A.J. said...
And that, my friend, is exactly why Hochuli launches into those "long explanations" that Mr. Snyder here is complaining about.
10-07-2008 @ 4:07PM
Matt Snyder said...
Please don't misconstrue, AJ, I LOVE Hochuli. I die laughing at his explanations.
I'm just saying it comes across as paranoid or reactionary to the crowd. He should be above that.
10-07-2008 @ 10:49PM
Jay Rat said...
What's the *official* NFL rule on possession in this situation (the AP fumble)? In a reception scenario, a spinning ball would NOT count as possession and the pass would be incomplete. It was my understanding that a fumble works the same way. Even though the ball may have been in his hand, the rotation implies the ball is starting to come loose.
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10-08-2008 @ 12:08PM
cajungene said...
DUDE ARE U BLIND NEED GLASSES WELL NEED SOMETHING IF U COULDNOT SEE A FACEMACK
10-07-2008 @ 3:20PM
August West said...
RE incident 4: The refs were blowing their whistles like crazy and Suggs still kept charging and made contact with the QB's head. If your forearm hits a QB in the head it's almost always going to be called no matter what the situation is...
So maybe it should've been called a personal foul instead of roughing the passer, but either way it's 15 and a 1st down.
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10-07-2008 @ 3:21PM
August West said...
I meant incident 3, not 4.
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10-07-2008 @ 3:26PM
LexShock said...
First off as a Bengals fan I know we suck but we have had 3 of our 5 losses decided refs not calling pass interference. At least they could let us get away with it if they are not going to call it. We would suck alot less if we didn't have to beat the opposing team, the refs and of course ourselves.
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10-07-2008 @ 7:32PM
Jerry said...
His Honor, Ed Hochuli, is an outstanding NFL referee and enforces the rules in a knowledgeable and professional manner. The "striped guys" are an easy target for the malcontents and frustrated Coaches, players and fans. Just remember that without these men on the Football field there would be absolute mayhem. The Officials mantain the integrity of the game, not an easy job, but certainly a thankless one.
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10-07-2008 @ 9:10PM
George said...
lol at Lex,3 of 5 losses from refs? The Bengals suck dude,get over it,you sound like a Cubs fan,blame anything.
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10-07-2008 @ 9:10PM
Martin said...
Although I agree with most of your comments, I think it is helpful for the "lengthy explanations", especially because they are not lengthy (2 to 3 seconds is well within the adult attention span) and are helpful to the fans. Perhaps if someone told the high school fans that illegal contact is not a foul, rather than keeping them in the dark, you would avoid some fights in the stands.
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10-07-2008 @ 9:27PM
Art Rossi said...
As an NCAA official with 38 years of experience on all levels, I would strongly suggest that you stick to your high school officiating. Some of your explanations are extremely poor and just serve to undermine the excellent overall job that the officials are doing on the field and serve as fodder for the idiots who think that every one in stripes is out to get "their team." As everyone who has ever officiated knows, you are going to miss calls either because your vision was blocked, you were looking elsewhere or you felt at the time that the offense just did not warrant a flag. (I wonder how many slow motion replays you looked at to gain the "insight" that you now claim.) You as an observer are also unaware of the what the officials have been told/reminded during the week by their Supervisors and what else has happened during the game to make them more or less aware of certain fouls. There are always going to be missed calls just as there will be stupid play calls, dropped passes and runners who trip (why not blame Bush falling down on Hochuli's crew as well?). With your attitude, you will be on the high school level for a very long time. Leave the critiquing to Mike Pereira and the NFL supervisors who have a much better idea of what is going on than you apparently do.
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10-07-2008 @ 10:07PM
Matt Snyder said...
Throughout my three reports thus far I have echoed many of those sentiments ... namely the fact that these human beings are going to miss calls or are blocked off.
I even said this under incident six:
"I'll give the benefit of the doubt to this crew here, because we can't hear what's being said and sometimes the game dictates more preventative calls of this nature."
I believe you have taken a lot of my comments out of context. I respect the hell out of the NFL officials as a whole.
10-07-2008 @ 10:38PM
Kevin said...
Art,
Your comment is inflammatory in nature. Rather than berating and belittling the article, I for one would appreciate a more technical assessment.
The article appears to attempt an objective examination of the 'controversial' calls of the week. In your opinion, is this an invalid area for critique? Should it be balanced with an assessment of what was well done?
I have to reject 'they are only human' argument, as well as the appeal to Mike Pereira and the NFL supervisors.
Even in a win, the super-elite are critiqued. Point in case, Ben Roethlisberger led the Steelers to a game winning touchdown in the final minutes. But "he holds the ball too long". Such critique is valid, provided it is accurate and balance.
As for Mike Pereira, I am unfamiliar with his blog that covers controversial calls, breaking down what happened so that fans understand the nature of the officials calls.
Best,
Kevin
10-08-2008 @ 1:51PM
George said...
How is it that in baseball, we have only 4 officials and though most of their calls are obvious to the untrained eye, 99% of those bang-bang plays prove just how good MLB umpires really are. Yet in the NFL, we have referees, line judges, side judges, and back judges along with "replay officials" who have plays developing right in front of them and they can't get the call right. They've even implemented instant replays and they've screwed that up as well.
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10-08-2008 @ 6:30AM
giant fan since 57 said...
I'm guessing that baseball is easier to ref because once the ball is hit all the officials can pretty much concentrate on the same area. They follow the ball. In football with all the action that occurrs away from the play, it is much more difficult to keep an eye out for infractions.
10-07-2008 @ 11:00PM
Art Rossi said...
Mike Pereira and virtually any other competent official on virtually any level could not care less about "blogs" or what the fans think. Almost all "fans" that I have met have little idea of the rules and/or the philosphy that goes into officiating. I have no problem with officials being critiqued other than it should be done by those who know what is right and/or wrong. I suspect that you might be prepared to critique a brain surgeon even thought you never went to medical school. I would suggest that you get off your couch, put away the 6 pack and go down and voulunteer to officiate at the local Pop Warner or high school freshmen games. I would be interested in knowing how long you last and how well you do. Until that time, I doubt whether you or many other "bloggers' are qualified to offer up weekly critiques of the officials.
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10-08-2008 @ 12:58AM
nster64 said...
Ed needs to get a larger shirt .. or get off the steroids .. he's still one of the best though.
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10-08-2008 @ 8:11AM
Alan said...
Art,
you sound like a pompous ass. Get over yourself. I don't need to know every little rule to know that officials in games screw up.
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10-08-2008 @ 8:18AM
Rick19 said...
yea! what he said...but the eagles game was the worst they called the block in the back, just on the wrong team they even go the # right. that block in the back was #50 on #50. and the ref. just got the teams mixed up, like the liquior he was drinking out of the gatorade bottle.lol
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