If you are interested in sportswriters riled up at bloggers, media ax-grinding, blog etiquette relating to altering blogs and blog comments, really ridiculous things about NFL coaches who yell, and/or the Texans running game, read on. Apologies if parts of it read like someone recounting their latest golf game, hole-by-hole, but none of this makes any lick of sense unless you have a bit of context. Even with the context, I still find it baffling.
The other day, Richard Justice, columnist for the Houston Chronicle, wrote a negative article on the front page of the sports section about Houston Texans offensive line guru Alex Gibbs . He said in part:
The Texans began this summer hoping to be a run-first team. They were universally praised for the hiring of O-line coach Alex Gibbs, a rooster of a man whose idea of leadership seems to be running around screaming at and insulting players. He has spent much of his adult life in the NFL, but may not be sharpest knife in the drawer.Ouch. I found the article extremely peculiar given all the positive things being said about Gibbs by offensive linemen for the Texans. And well, it is the preseason. Why is Justice calling out an accomplished coach installing a new blocking system after the third preseason game ... because Gibbs is one of many NFL coaches who yell?
If he was as smart as people make him out to be, he'd know that players tune out screaming coaches about 12 seconds into their second tantrum. Are you listening, Gary Kubiak? Screaming at your quarterbacks isn't a smart idea, either.
Other parts of the article were strange too. Though I also share concerns about the Texans running game, with each preseason game up to that point, the running back yards-per-carry improved, including a reasonable 4.3 ypc in the third preseason game against Dallas.
I know. You probably don't care about that part of the story unless you are a Texans fan, a friend or relative of Alex Gibbs, think preseason stats are particularly meaningful to judge coaches, watch for accuracy in sports journalism, or happened to draft rookie Steve Slaton in your fantasy draft.
Since I'm a Texans fan, and one of the things I blog about are the Texans, I figured I'd ask Justice about it.
I asked in a blog comment why Alex Gibbs was singled out for being a yelling coach when there are many yelling coaches in the NFL, including many on the Texans staff not as accomplished as Gibbs. I also commented on some of the things others were discussing.

It was a very straightforward question. My question and his hostile answer no longer exist on his blog because he deleted it and two other comments two days ago. (I know he deleted it because I used to write on the Chron.com website for almost a year and know how the software works.)
If you want to read the full text of the deleted comment, and his response, it can be found at the TexansTalk.com message board.
He didn't answer my question of why he was targeting Gibbs in particular for yelling, responding:
No player likes being yelled at. That's simply ridiculous. Do you really think those were sincere comments? Are you that gullible? ''Sure, coach, I like the way you try to humliate [sic] in front of my teammates. I love it.'' Are you that clueless? Hey, aren't you the person that wrote that I'm unprofessional then admitted you didn't know the standards of professionalism in my business? If it's not you, my apologies. If it is you, in the words of the immortal George Bamberger...--RichardHuh? In response to a legitimate question, he decides to make it about me. So I decided to patiently and reasonably respond to his outburst. Because I really wanted an answer to the question. The comment was published, and then later deleted but if you have any interest in it, you can find it preserved here.
Eventually, his other blog commenters pressed him to actually answer my original question. Do the players truly have a problem with Gibbs? The answer he eventually gives is no, they don't have an issue with him. But finally, Justice admitted in his comments what this article was about:
It's simple. Good coaches don't scream. Period. End of story. There are exception [sic] to ever [sic] definitive statement, but good coaches simply don't constantly scream at players. As for Alex Gibbs, he's involved in a team sport, but he loves separating himself from the group. Rules that apply to other coaches--for instance, taking [sic] to the media--don't apply to him. This isn't about me, either. I could care less whether he talks to me. If he does, though, I want to ask if he remembers a meeting we had in South Florida about 12 years ago. I was carrying the water for NFL assistant coaches that were pushing the league for better benefits. He wouldn't speak to me on behalf of his peers that were making far less money than him. That incident spoke volumes about him. He's about Alex Gibbs. It's not a big deal because he probably won't be around long. He has retired three or four times in recent years. If Ahman Green doesn't have another good season left in him, no one should be surprised if Alex Gibbs takes it to the house again.Double huh? So at first he suggests I'm gullible and clueless for believing statements from the offensive linemen and other players about the teaching Gibbs is doing, but then he makes a blanket statement that good coaches don't scream? The Texans know Gibbs is a short-timer anyway due to his age, so I am guessing Ahman Green's health status will have nothing to do with his retirement plans.
He catches so much grief for this from other commenters, that he later writes a followup blog post that finally makes it clear that the offensive linemen for the Texans do not dislike Gibbs. And he attempts to make the case that great coaches aren't screamers so therefore, I guess, he was right to question Gibbs screaming?
Unsurprisingly, many of the commenters mock this point of view, and Justice finally summarizes his thesis:
I don't like Alex Gibbs. I think he's part of a team sport, but tries very hard not to be part of the team. He has his own set of rules apart from the team. I think he has been a great NFL coach. Maybe the game has passed him by. At this point, he hasn't made the Texans' running game better. If this continues, look for him to retire for the third or fourth time. Need further clarification?--RichardIt's about at this point, he starts referring to me in that post as "that Stephanie woman" who riled him up (since deleted though you can find commenter references to it unless those are deleted too). I completely believe in the concept that you can disagree with someone without being disagreeable so I'm not sure what "riled" him.

Then this inexplicable exchange happens between a commenter and Justice (still preserved on the blog, at least for now):
Brandon: Do you know if Alex Gibbs builds relationships with his players? You don't know that. Some of the greatest coaches of all-time yelled at their players. Some players need that to get them going and that's the job of the coaches to get the best out of their players. Your wrong about this. Just because he didn't give you an interview doesn't give you the right to dog the guy. I think you owe Stephanie an apology too.An extremely inappropriate and strange comment on a number of levels.
RJ: I don't know what Stephanie's real name is, but she creeps me out. She writes a little too often, wants to discuss and debate. She has her own blog, so why is she so interested in mine? Ask yourself that question. Maybe I've watched Fatal Attraction too many times. If something happens to one of my rabbits, she's going to be in big trouble.--Richard
I signed each of my comments with my full name and a link to my FanHouse blog. I used to write a popular Texans fanblog at the paper that I know he read. At the time he wrote his Fatal Attraction comment, I had written exactly three blog comments on two blog posts and have rarely ever commented on his blog. After this, he deletes my three blog comments and refuses to publish my objection to his inappropriate comment.
And of course, I guess he thinks it is clever to marginalize the logical comments of a female sports blogger by equating it with a shrieking stalking Glenn Close rabbit boiler.
Last night, after I attended the Bucs-Texans preseason game, I had a fan come up to me and say that Richard Justice was saying similar Fatal Attraction-type comments about me on his radio show. What?
You know, as a sports blogger, I'm fairly accustomed to people writing impolite, angry personal attacks in my comments. You write enough, that happens. And a few of those people say tired things like "go in the kitchen and bake me muffins." Not terribly original, though I will admit to baking quite tasty muffins, but not, of course, for rude people.
Though I pretty much anticipate such personal attacks from anonymous blog commenters, I should expect more from a columnist that works for the only major newspaper in the fourth largest city in America. A newspaper, in fact, that I've subscribed to as long as I can remember and a place where I blogged for free until my hobby felt like work.
As someone who has blogged for them, I know how much time it can take on that blog platform to have to screen each comment individually to make sure that the commenters aren't being vulgar or profane. And I am certain they don't get paid enough for the blogging portion of their work to be worth it. But if you are going to be a journalist and blogger, you probably shouldn't delete already published posts just because you disagree with them, leaving a trail of confused comments and snide remarks.
And maybe it isn't terribly professional to respond to legitimate questions about an article by using the platform of your newspaper blog and radio show to personally attack a person. If you disagree with what someone writes, you should attack their arguments, not them personally. Unless, I guess, you are unable to refute what they are saying.

Some people might suggest that he was just making an ill-advised, not terribly funny joke. However, I can't find it funny because I've received angry emails from him in the past. He didn't like my media criticism of things that he wrote. I'm not going to share those emails without his permission, but I will say that last year I tried to make peace with him, and he eventually invited me to comment on his blog.
I'm guessing he was unhappy specifically with this Chron.com FanBlog post I wrote during Texans DE Mario Williams' rookie year in 2006. (The blog no longer has my byline on it because of software reasons, but you can still see my name at the end of it). I still believe that it was fair media criticism, and from his email to me, I thought he was fine with me leaving comments in his blog. I guess not.
I can't imagine that many people like their work criticized, but if you are writing opinions for the world at large to read, you should expect that. And perhaps embrace that if you are interested in learning others' points of view.
For some people, having a columnist trashing them on their blog and radio show would be a badge of honor of sorts. For me, I want no part of that. I've tried to have a positive reputation in the online community , with local and national media sources, and with the Texans and their fanbase. I'm a wife, mom, attorney, blogger and sports fan, and I'm not terribly keen at having a nationally known-columnist use his blog and his radio show to suggest that I'm some sort of stalker.
I didn't want to write about this at all but because people are asking me about it, I decided to share things as I saw them and let you draw your own conclusions in the light of day. I find it sad and disappointing.
I just had a football question.





















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8-29-2008 @ 4:16PM
bigfatdrunk said...
Obviously, he's a threatened, pathetic, mysoginistic hack.
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8-29-2008 @ 4:38PM
beyondblue said...
Wow, that's crap. Especially how he equated a woman questioning is his obviously flawed premise to be some kind of stalker thing? Gosh, I guess you are a horrible blogger to read other people's blogs! Hows dare you! I know I have seen him on one of the gazillion ESPN platforms, now its time to ignore him.
Some people have been around sports media too long and have too many in the business saying how great they are. They think they are immune to criticism, or that they have some kind of special knowledge/access that we, loyal fans and readers, cannot understand. And its crap, because really, he's just another blogger with an opinion that I don't have to bother with if it does not come from some kind of useful analysis.
You asked a fair question, he should have come back with a useful analysis. Instead he rants (because he KNOWS that good football coaches do not scream) and makes some misogynistic personal attacks.
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8-29-2008 @ 4:39PM
August West said...
You ready to go at it again, BFD!?
Just kiddin ya...
That's a pretty shameful exchange on Justice's part, and definitely makes me lose some respect for a writer I've enjoyed reading in the past (though admittedly I only really read his Astros-related columns with any regularity).
Steph, you didn't deserve that, and you definitely deserve an apology from your former colleague... you can definitely get some folks riled up (myself included), but I've never read anything of yours that would come close warrant a reaction like that even from message board 'tough guys', never mind publicly accountable professionals.
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8-29-2008 @ 8:29PM
bigfatdrunk said...
No way. A house full of 5 year olds just beat the crap outta me. I got nothing. :-)
8-29-2008 @ 4:46PM
Chris F. said...
Well, Steph, if you have mainstream media people attacking you, then you must be doing something right. A simple note worth mentioning: most traditional journalists find the new media to be a bit threatening because of their laissez faire ways among other things. But hey, life isn't always fair. Just go with the flow and stay true to yourself.
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8-29-2008 @ 5:29PM
Texan_Bill said...
Steph, you know where I stand with regards to Dickie... Oh, and just remember - rabbit stew is awesome!!!
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8-29-2008 @ 5:36PM
Thomas (Spec) said...
Steph, I saw the first article and the questions and his rant and insults. I made two comments and both were deleted. You asked a legit question about a team you love, it would be no different than if some idiot non-blogger (Me) were to ask the same question I am sure he would have reacted the same way, I just would not have asked so elegantly. Your knowledge of football rivals most guys and almost all the writers for the Chron and that is what threatens them. Knowledge is power as the saying goes and you have the power over the Chron because everyone knows that between McFatty and Justice neither one knows a damn thing about football.
With Houston only having one newspaper and the corporate headquarters in California and the circulation and ad revenue coming in these old worn out crappy journalist do not have to have any integrity what so ever. There is no check and baance for them nothing to keep them from resting on what they did in Houston 20 years ago. McClain does not get the same scoops he had with the old regime or the old team that was once here so now he is forced to do fluff pieces with a very inexperienced piece of eye candy. Not saying she will not be good but she needs to go cut her teeth and learn the business away from Houston. Justice is trying to be the shock jock of sports writing, like Jay Mariotti or Skip Bayless. Both of whom are trying to duplicate what Jim Rome does. Which I guess to some is entertaining but it is not Journalism and it is not providing readers with the accurate information they are wanting or needing.
If you want I can repost my first response that was deleted but my second comment (I had a Justice moment) I did not save.
Keep up the good Steph because all of us Texans fans appreciate it. You took the high road in this whole episode and that is a great thing.
Thomas (Spec)
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8-29-2008 @ 6:06PM
petejayhawk said...
Richard Justice has been a panelist on Around The Horn.
Need I say more?
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8-29-2008 @ 6:14PM
Theodore Logan said...
This was a really funny read. I hope it's all out now and this will die. The more it drags out, the more foolish the players here are revealed to be.
"You definitely deserve an apology from your former colleague...." That is hilarious. Colleague....ha ha
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8-29-2008 @ 8:29PM
bigfatdrunk said...
That's so true. There's nothing funnier than misogyny and stalker jokes.
8-29-2008 @ 6:39PM
socctty said...
Richard Justice is the Karl Rove or Dick Morris of sports columnists. He uses the logic of the self-important; the victimizer becoming the victim.
Even though he's Better Than You, it's never about him, it can never be about him - the topic is always the opponent, their "cynicism", how "creepy" they are. He attacks your character and your supposed credentials (you're just a woman with a blog; he's a newspaper columnist!) instead of your ideas. Don't kid yourself; he's waiting for you to say something impolitic to point out what a raving, irrational lunatic you are... one of those "fringe" bloggers.
I don't subscribe; I'm stationed in New Mexico. But I refuse to go to their website or look at their paper or watch Around the Horn or any other show that Justice appears on until he is severely reprimanded (or fired) and publishes a column in the paper apologizing for his actions.
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8-29-2008 @ 7:57PM
apache said...
Stephanie you have more class in your little finger than that two cent hack flip flopper (that can't spell) has in his whole body... maybe this will help: http://www.thedreamshake.com/2008/08/just-to-clarify-this-guy-is-no-talent.html
Keep doing what you do... real fans really appreciate you, and always have since your chron.com days.
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8-29-2008 @ 8:38PM
Martin said...
Stephanie -
1. I have read many of your blogs and have seen the way you respond (politely, no less) to critical comments. Although I wish other bloggers on Fanhouse would do so, very few do.
2. Unfortunately, too often we see sportswriters who bad mouth a player or coach because of a perceived slight. (The perceived slight is usually when the player or coach refuses to answer an inane question put to him by the sportwriter.) Richard Justice appears to fall into that category in this instance and owes apologies all around. A good journalist needs to separate his ego from his reporting.
3. I hope this response merits one of your tasty muffins.
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8-29-2008 @ 10:43PM
kozanack said...
Justice is either an imbecile, narcissistic, or both. No one with a lick of sense or a semblance of self control would reacted this way. He must be a joy to be around.
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8-29-2008 @ 10:44PM
Hardcore Texan said...
To: Theodore Logan
I don't know what you the heck you could be talking about or why you found this blog amusing. But Stephanie has a lot of credibility with Texans fans, tons more than RJ could ever muster. First of all she actually spends a lot of time covering facts and reporting them to other fans and carries herself with a lot of class. What she does comes from passion for her team not for a paycheck. Something RJ wouldn't know anything about.
Steph,
Keep doing what you are doing, you know that so many of us stand behind you, you represent Texans nation with honor and honesty. You only asked a football question to which a supposed sports writer should have been able to answer with a shred of professionalism. I agree that is actually more sad than anything. Sad that a city the size of Houston can not produce journalism, it's pretty ridiculous.
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8-29-2008 @ 11:26PM
Tedc said...
Steph, I actually read what you write. I haven't read a Justice article for a year before reading the excerpts from this Blog.
Nuff said.
The Chronicle could, and should, do better.
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8-30-2008 @ 12:07AM
Señor Stan said...
to Theodore Logan....
why did you choose that screen name? Was Bill S. Preston Esq. taken already?
To Steph,
I have been an avid reader of your blogs here and your posts on the TexansTalk website. I always enjoy your takes and appreciate the time and effort you put into your work.
Justice cannot write a column unless he somehow interjects himself into the story. He is a narcissitic tool. You touched a nerve when you got to the root of his problem. Mean old Alex Gibbs won't talk to him. Poor Richard.
I followed the series of events pretty much as they unfolded, "saw" blog posts disappear, and was angered by the Fatal Attraction references. He would be torn to shreds in a message board forum where he was held to task on his weak and often contadictory takes and could not delete what hit too close to home.
He is as coward, and as yella as Jerry Jones' teeth.
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8-30-2008 @ 12:54AM
LB said...
Stephanie, as a fellow woman in sports journalism, I feel your pain. You have more courage than I do and I really respect that. So many times I find myself keeping a low profile and not trying to debate and discuss stories I didn't agree with or had questions about with some of my more respected, older and generally male colleagues. The reaction you got is exactly the reason why I hesitate, but it's a ridiculous reaction, completely unprofessional and really makes me sick to see. Keep your head up, and even though I don't always agree with you, I respect you because you always try to back up your arguments with reason and logic - a seemingly lost concept these days.
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8-30-2008 @ 1:04AM
TexanTerp said...
Dickie needs to get a life and more so get a clue about what it is to be a sportswriter. Let's just hope he pulls a Mariotti and the Chronicle readers can give him the proper "you're #1" salute, errr, send-off he deserves.
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8-30-2008 @ 2:18AM
D-Bo said...
After reading this post, visiting the forums and Mr. Justice's articles I sent this to the powers that be at the chronicle. I tried to leave the MSM v. blgoshpere angle out.
To Whom It May Concern:
I am appalled by the writings posted by Richard Justice in response to comments left after this article: http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2008/08/only_an_optimis.html
There area number of inappropriate and highly unprofessional posts like:
"Oh so you only use English when you feel like it? Be sure and put that on your resume. Listen, Cronkite, don't get into an insult contest with me. You'll end up in a fetal position whimpering and begging me to ease up. Find something you're good at and dedicate yourself to that. I don't know what that would be, but this ain't it. Go hang out with that Glenn Close woman. She'd probably find you fascinating. Speaking of Stephanie Stradley, I woke up this morning and saw our rabbit cage was empty. ''Stephanie!'' I screamed. Turns out, the little feller was sleeping beneath a chair.--Richard"
This "writer" (I use the term loosely) does your business a great disservice by acting belligerent and rude on your website. I encourage anyone within the Houston Chronicle organization who believes in journalistic integrity, ethics and professionalism to make it known to the powers that be that Richard Justice has no place in your organization. Take a look at his responses (or deleted commentaries) and I believe that you will find Mr. Justice's actions indefensible.
Thank you,
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