This post is part of a series of posts that try to figure out who's to blame for the Steelers sack problems. The first story in the series listed how many sacks each lineman was responsible for. Now we're looking at how much of the blame can be put on quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Click here for all the posts in the series. To get this data, I went back and rewatched all 53 sacks from the Steelers' 2007 season including the playoff game, logging the type of rush, the time it took for the defender to get to Roethlisberger, who was responsible and any mitigating factors.If Sean Mahan has gotten the majority of the blame for the Steelers' sack problems from Steelers fans and media members, Ben Roethlisberger hasn't been far behind. The logic is that the Steelers' guarterback holds onto the ball so long that he turns incomplete passes into sacks.
It's hard to argue the point. We all have seen numerous plays where Roethlisberger has slipped out of a blitzing linebacker's grasp, scrambled to the outside and then found Hines Ward or others downfield. But we've also seen plays where he spotted a blitzing cornerback, figured he could break the tackle, and went down on the initial hit. There are plays where Roethlisberger hangs on to the ball, gets hit and taken down when a quarterback who's less of a gambler would have simply thrown the ball into the stands.
| SACKS FROM 3-MAN RUSH |
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| <3 seconds | 1 |
| 3-4 seconds | 2 |
| 4+ seconds | 1 |
| SACKS FROM 4-MAN RUSH |
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| <3 seconds | 15 |
| 3-4 seconds | 9 |
| 4+ seconds | 7 |
| SACKS FROM 5-MAN RUSH |
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| <3 seconds | 8 |
| 3-4 seconds | 2 |
| 4+ seconds | 1 |
| SACKS FROM 6-MAN RUSH |
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| <3 seconds | 4 |
| 3-4 seconds | 1 |
| 4+ seconds | 0 |
| SACKS FROM 7-MAN RUSH |
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| <3 seconds | 2 |
| 3-4 seconds | 0 |
| 4+ seconds | 0 |
While the time to initial hit is not an absolute measure of whether Roethlisberger had time to pick out a receiver, it is a helpful indicator of whether the line did its job. There's no doubt that the 16 sacks that Roethlisberger took in 3.0 seconds or less against straight-up three or four-man rushes are the fault of the offensive line--it's not asking too much for five linemen to block four defensive linemen for three seconds. And it's actually pretty reasonable to expect that Roethlisberger will have four seconds to pick out a receiver against a three-man rush--after all, there are eight men in coverage so there's less open spaces for receivers to find.
As one of the commenters pointed out during the season, there is a difference between having three seconds to throw against a four-man rush and having three seconds to throw against a six-man rush. But the fact that 16 of the Steelers sacks came on plays where Roethlisberger was hit in less than three seconds by a three or four-man rush is a pretty clear sign of some serious offensive line problems. To put it in perspective, the Saints gave up 16 sacks all season.
On the other hand, I counted 19 sacks that could be termed coverage sacks. Not all of those are Roethlisberger's fault , but a large number of those sacks come on plays where someone like Peyton Manning might have thrown the ball away and avoided the sack.
In a most extreme case, there was a play against the Rams recorded a sack 6.3 seconds after the snap. No line can reasonably be asked to hold out a four-man rush for more than six seconds. There were three more sacks that took longer than five seconds to occur, and another five that took longer than four seconds. That's nine sacks where the line can reasonably say that Roethlisberger was asking too much from them.
Two of the Steelers sacks came on screen plays where the defense sniffed out the screen. Those can be blamed on play calling rather than any player--it's the offensive lineman's job to let the rush by, and if the rush gets to Big Ben too quickly while the running back is covered, it's better to take a sack than risk an interception.
I counted a total of 17 sacks that could reasonably be termed coverage sacks. Those include the nine sacks where Roethlisberger held onto the ball too long, several where there simply was no one open, and a couple of plays where an overload block left the line and backs with more blitzers than they could block., In one case Roethlisberger simply stepped out of bounds behind the line.
But here's the bad news for the Steelers offensive line--those 36 other sacks would still rank as a below average line (33 of them happened during the regular season). That would be worse than 16 other NFL teams by itself. And if you allow that even the best quarterback is going to hold on to the ball too long a couple of times a year, and that there will be four or five plays where a bad play call leaves the quarterback helpless and it's hard to envision any way that the Steelers would have given up less than 40 sacks with this line.
And there's one other factor to acknowledge. While Roethlisberger's decision to hang onto the ball may be responsible for some of the sacks, we also know that his size, strength and scrambling ability also keep him out of several sacks a season on plays where the average quarterback would have gone down.
This is a rough approximation, but if you blame 15 of the Steelers' 2007 sacks on Roethlisberger's tendency to hold onto the ball (and that's holding him to a very high standard), but also credit him with five sacks he avoided by breaking out of tackles where the average quarterback would have gone down, you're looking at him costing the team 10 sacks a season. That's a significant number, but the reality is that the Steelers line would give up plenty of sacks whether it was Roethlisberger or Dan Marino under center.



















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
6-13-2008 @ 11:27AM
Luz said...
Sigh... I thought the line was really bad and now I'm really sad to know I was right. Great analysis JJ.
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6-13-2008 @ 3:20PM
StigmA said...
one thing i noticed after watching the steelers v seahawks in person was that after contact, ben tends to run back 5 - 10 yards and usually gets sacked somewhere at that point, unless he manages to escape for a few yards. you'd almost think by now that the coaches would tell him to go forward, not backward and take a 1 yard loss rather than a 10-15 yard loss... (then again on 2nd/3rd & 25, he has no problem making up those yards and then some)
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6-13-2008 @ 4:01PM
tom bartoli said...
after watching QB's with happy feet in the pocket, I'll gladly take this guy who holds the ball too long. (in fact, i still sometimes break into dancing whenever i think about the Houston Texans selecting Robinson, and knowing that Ben had fallen into our laps in the draft.)
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6-13-2008 @ 6:39PM
BuddyToledo said...
Great analysis. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Ben saved us more than five sacks, as well.
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6-14-2008 @ 2:23AM
Steely Dan said...
You make a good point tom with QB's having happy feet.
QB's who have happy feet are usually nervous and anxiety starts setting in hoping not to be sacked. Though, every game i've every seen with the Colts playing, Peyton dances all around behind that line....lol But the difference is that works for Peyton and he always gets rid of the ball!
You look at Tom Brady and when he stepped back he was always calm and feet planted (until the Super Bowl). Every game i saw of the Patriots, it seemed Brady had a lifetime behind his line. There are many times i counted 6 - 7 sec. before he got rid of the ball, but then again there were plenty of times the ball was out of his hand in less than a sec. - This is due to the play call and having his recievers get open to allow this to be affective.
The recievers were a big part of the problem as well. Whether it was the plays being called or just good coverage by the defense, the recievers didn't get open very well. Many, MANY times when the ball was snapped that i saw or should i say didn't see the recievers get open and that attributed to Ben holding onto the ball for an extend period of time (while being chased after by lineman in 3 secs...lol)
The Steelers line was horrible! - Not on just the pass but againsrt the run as well. Willie struggled a lot and it costed us in the long run with him getting hurt! - Yes it wasn't directly the lines fault that his leg got broken, rather than a combination of the line and Tomlins "run willie till the wheels fell off" attitude. Tou can't expect to have a RB with SO many attemps and not expect the risk of him getting hurt.
Bottom line is that the sack problem is noted to a lot of reasons, though the main issue was the Oline. Also, i believe a lot of the Steelers problems was the play calling.
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6-15-2008 @ 5:49AM
G-man said...
I appreciate the report, but I will tell you this: Before Ben, we were the little train, that always got into the playoffs, but ended up coming back home for the season, the same day. Now, not only has our train gotten bigger and better, but we own the tracks, and the Station it came from, thanks to Ben ! LOL ! It's all good, because of Ben ! Just my 2 cents.
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6-17-2008 @ 9:28AM
gene baskette said...
Nice job JJ, I had thought that Ben was responsible for quite a few sacks for holding onto the ball to long and trying to make something happen. I'm not so concerned about the loss of yards because he can make magic happen. What concerns me is how many hits can he take before a serious injury. Let's face it Charlie is good for a few plays, maybe a game but he is not going to take us to the show. I agree about the play calling and the recievers not working thier way back to him on blitz's and when the coverage is good. I think with our draft choices this season will help out this season. All we need now is better play by the secondary & special teams and it be time to start the ring collection on the other hand. GO STEELERS!!!!
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7-01-2008 @ 9:21AM
troglodyte said...
The decline of the Steelers' running game since the Bus retired has been a factor too. Without a dominant running game, the defense has been able to key more on the passing game, leading to more sacks. A balanced offense behind a decent line will produce fewer sacks, in my humble opinion. Thus the draft of Mendenhall should help.
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